The name Charles
- Hi, newbie here. My son and my step son both have Charles as a middle
name, My husbands middle name is Charles, his brother's first name is
Charles, My grandson, middle name. Father in law, Same thing.
Grandfather in law, first name, that's right, Charles.
So what does my husband want to be called in the SCA, you guessed it,
Charles! Anyone know when if or how it was used? Are there names that
come before or after Charles in the evolution of names?
Tiffany for now
- Tiffany wrote:
> Anyone know when if or how [the name "Charles"] was used? Are thereThe Academy of St. Gabriel (which researches historically accurate
> names that come before or after Charles in the evolution of names?
names and devices) has issued reports on the name "Charles" for a few
people. One states that "Charles" was introduced to England in the
12th century, but didn't become popular until the 16th
indicates "Charles" is a common French name from the 13th through the
the Medieval Names Archive guides for the two countries
<http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/> to track down specific citations, and
to make sure you get the spellings right for whichever time he chooses.
If he's willing to consider cognates, of course, there are additional
options. The Italians had "Carlo", the Irish "Cerlus" and "Serlus",
the Spanish "Carlos", the Dutch "Karel" and "Carolus", the Poles and
Slovaks "Karol", the Romanians "Carol", the Czechs "Karel", etc. They
all ultimately derive from the Latin name "Carolus", as does "Charles"
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- Quoth "peachyfaun":
> So what does my husband want to be called in the SCA, you guessed it,<Charles> is definitely a fine choice. Is he wedded to this particular
> Charles! Anyone know when if or how it was used? Are there names that
> come before or after Charles in the evolution of names?
spelling? If so, then he'll want to focus on English and French, as
the name was spelled differently in other languages. The name (in
various forms) was quite popular in France and Germany because of
the renown of Charles the Great (Charlemagne). It was less common in
England, where it was introduced by the Normans, so it's appropriate
only from the 11th century on. The form <Carle> was moderately more
popular than <Charles> in England.  <Charles> is appropriate for
pretty much all parts of France from at least the 11th century on. [2,3]
<Charles> was a rather rare name in Scotland before Charles I, but
it can be found in the very end of our period. 
If he's interested in a different culture, let me know, and I can
research forms of <Charles> in those languages.
 Withycombe, _Oxford Dictionary of English Christian Names_ s.n.
 "French Names from Paris, 1421, 1423, & 1438"
 "Names Found in Commercial Documents from Bordeaux, 1470-1520"
 Black, _Surnames of Scotland_ s.n. Charles
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- While we're on the topic of names submissions, I have a quick
question. I know that you need physical proof (photocopied, etc.) of
the place you found your desired name. Now, what happens if you can no
longer find the site that had your desired name? Would I be able to
use my report from the Academy of St. Gabriel? Thanks
- Quoth "drew_radtke":
> While we're on the topic of names submissions, I have a quickPrintouts of a S. Gabriel Report count as the required physical
> question. I know that you need physical proof (photocopied, etc.) of
> the place you found your desired name. Now, what happens if you can no
> longer find the site that had your desired name? Would I be able to
> use my report from the Academy of St. Gabriel? Thanks
proofs. You can find more information about using a S. Gabriel
report as documentation in a submission at the Academy's home
page - http://www.s-gabriel.org/
Specifically, in the FAQ for heralds, there's a section
"How do I use an Academy report to document a submission to the
Society for Creative Anachronism College of Arms?"
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