Re: [SCA Newcomers] Please be gentle!
- Quoth "johnr_econ":
> What about variations or uses of "eagle" "wolf" or "bear"? These areIn English - Reaney & Wilson s.n. has <Egle> 1230 and <le Egle> 1297,
> my presonal, line, and clan totems, respectfully, and I woud like to
> use somehow.
both nicknames from the bird. S.n. Bear there is <Vrs'> 1130, <le
Bere> 1166, <Bere> 1177, <le Urs> 1219, <le Beer> 1296 - <urs> is
the Old French word for for 'bear'. S.n. Wolf there is <le Wolf>
1279, and the entry also says "<Wolf> as a surname is very seldom
without the article <le> in the 13th and 14th centuries." So,
any of these would be appropriate English surnames for the 12th-
> Also where could I find that dictionary mentionedMost libraries will have a copy, probably in the reference
department. It's also available pretty cheaply through
> Or possibly scandinavian or germanic versions?For Old Norse bynames, you can take a look at
"Viking Bynames found in the Landn��mab��k"
The German word for 'eagle' is <adler>. Academy of S.
Gabriel Report #2668 (www.s-gabriel.org/2668) says:
"In late medieval and renaissance Germany, it was common for the urban
wealthy to decorate their houses with distinctive symbols, often
animals, to identify them. These marks served much the same purpose
as modern street addresses, and the houses were often refered to
simply by the symbol, e.g. "the ship", "the lion", "the rose". The
German surname <Adler> originally derived from such a house name; a
person living at or near a house known "The Eagle" might have been
described as <ze dem adelar> or <zem Adelar> "at the Eagle" or <der
adeler> "the Eagle-man". We find this surname in several similar
forms throughout the 14th century [6, 11]. <Adler> appears on its own
as a surname in 1392, 1395, and 1414 ."
The same holds for <ba"r> 'bear' (where a" represents an a-umlaut).
Bahlow's _Dictionary of German Names_ s.n. Ba"r notes <Drewes to
dem beren> 1435.
There are also examples of <Wolf> or <Wolff> being used as a
surname in later-period Germany (see "German Names from Kulmbach,
and "German Names from N��rnberg, 1497"
in these cases, it's hard to tell whether this is from the word for
'wolf', or a nickname from a name like <Wolfgang>.
Hope this helps!
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