Re: [SCA Newcomers] Re: blazon
- greenfaere1 wrote:
> The actual rule in the rules of submissions is : VIII 1a. ..."ThreeI am going to have to disagree with this. I don't want to get into an
> or more types of charges may not be in one group."
> This is unfortunately why the very pretty device with the dog's head
> will be returned. The bend, the dog's head, and the shamrock are
> placed directly on the field, making them each a primary charge.
> They are then three different primary charges (and being a primary
> places them into the same charge group). The mullets are a secondary
> charge group. I would have to look to see how the fimbriation is
> counted, I'm not sure off the top of my head whether that's a
> secondary or tertiary charge.
> All ordinaries are charges. Anything that you place on the field is
> a charge. There just different types, ordinaries, beasts, etc.
argument, but, the "pretty device with the dog's head" should not be
returned as slot-machine heraldry (i.e., conflict with the last sentence
of RfS VIII.1.a). There could be other problems, but not that one.
Per the Glossary of Terms for the RfS, a primary charge is; "The most
important group of charges in a piece of armory...If there is a central
ordinary lying entirely on the field, it is the primary charge...In
Gules, a pale between two mullets argent, the pale is the primary
charge." Thus the bend sinister is the (only) primary charge. Note
that just being on the field does not make a charge part of the primary
The dog's head and the shamrock form a secondary charge group. Again,
per the GoT, a secondary charge is; "A group of charges on the field
around the primary charge group...In Gules, a pale between two mullets
argent, the mullets are the secondary charge group."
Since the bend sinister, dog's head, and shamrock are part of separate
charge groups, they do not cause a conflict with VIII.1.a (slot-machine
Finally, the three mullets, being completely on the bend sinister, are a
tertiary charge group. Per the GoT; "Any group of charges placed
entirely on other charges...Per chevron argent and sable, two roses and
a fleur-de-lys counterchanged and on a chief purpure three hearts argent
has one group of tertiary charges on the chief."
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