Re: [SCA Newcomers] Unique names and name help
- Hello Alison!
Apologies for not replying sooner - I thought it odd that I'd not
received any replies...until I looked in my spam folder!
Thanks heaps for clearing up the first-name duplication for me. I was
hoping that was the case, otherwise it would be quite difficult to
find a name.
I've contacted the herald for our group and she found this:
In regards to "Aryanhwy" it says "Rather extensive documentation from
Tangwystyl (Harpy Herald) is attached. It is difficult to summarize
but says that Aryanhwy is a constructed given name and it documents
the various roots. All elements have been modified to 11th century
[Welsh] spellings. [Note: The original documentation runs 700 words
and cites five sources -- I'd love to share its nuances with all of
you but my wrists could never take that much retyping]. The client
cares most about language, meaning, sound, and spelling."
This brings up another set of questions: what is a "constructed given
name" and are they common or able to be used? Is this the same as a
Thanks again for your help Alison, it is very much appreciated!
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 9:15 AM, Alison Choyce <greenfaere@...> wrote:
> Hi Sheree!
> There are so many thoughts I have on your query. First and simplest is
> that, you most certainly can have portions of the same name as someone else
> in the SCA, not identical full names, but many people may have the same
> first name, or many may have the same last name (sir name, by-name, etc).
> You cannot have a name that makes assumptions as to who you are, for
> instance you cannot be Henry Tudor, though you could be Henry Black.
> Aryanhwy is a well known herald, who is known for her name research as you
> have discovered. She is one of many people who writes articles for the
> Academy of Saint Gabriel, which is a SCAdian subgroup of volunteers who
> have an interest and do somewhat intensive research on topics that fall
> under the heading of 'herald' in the SCA. Saint Gabe's has many, many well
> researched name articles and other research available. It is a great
> resource, which I've used for many years now. The search I just used for
> <Aryanhwy> turned up nothing. Here is the link
> http://www.s-gabriel.org/advancedsearch.html . Use brackets around the name
> in your search, because otherwise you will turn up loads of articles in
> which she is cited as a source.
> Although I do not know this for certain, my guess is that Aryanhwy chose
> and registered her name many years ago, because she has been writing
> articles for a long time now. This is relevant because the rules have
> changed through the years to reflect what we have learned as more people do
> more research, and the Society moves towards authenticity. Fantasy names
> can no longer be registered. There are still people in the SCA who have and
> use fantasy names, which were likely registered years ago, but at this time
> you cannot register names that cannot be documented as having been
> plausible in period.
> Try looking for a name on the St Gabriel website, it is a good starting
> point. http://www.s-gabriel.org/names/ . If there is a herald in your
> local group, try working with that person, or checking to see if they have
> a resources you can use.
> Best of luck!
> Alison Wodehalle
> On Wed, Sep 26, 2012 at 9:17 PM, Sheree <shereetheconqueror@...>wrote:
>> Hello all --
>> Recently I found a name that I quite like, but after a quick search
>> have found that a very well known member in the SCA is already using
>> the name (Aryanhwy/Aryanwy). Are there any spoken (or unspoken) rules
>> to using a similar/same name of someone in the group? Especially
>> someone who is very prominent? Additionally, because she is awesome
>> and has written a number of really helpful naming articles for all
>> sorts of time periods and cultures, I'm having a heck of a time
>> finding documentation and historical precedence for the name - all of
>> my searches keep coming up for her! Has anyone had a similar issue?
>> Thanks for your time!
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