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  • Libby
    I don t know about period child carrying. But, women have been carrying babies and toddlers with slings forever. One would be really easy to make (and
    Message 1 of 16 , Jan 2, 2011
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      I don't know about period child carrying. But, women have been carrying
      babies and toddlers with slings forever. One would be really easy to make
      (and strong) using a heavy linen. You can carry the child on your chest,
      back or hip with a sling.
      On Jan 2, 2011 1:11 PM, "Maryelizabeth Hancock" <peterbenma@...>
      wrote:
      > I am new-again to the SCA but remember the first time that my family was
      active quite well. My youngest was just barely past bein a toddler and I
      found that tunics were the best garb. I could make them in a way so that the
      kids could grow and still have garb by making the sleeves a bit loose and
      long, then putting in a hem, the same was done with the hem at the bottom of
      the tunic. A plain pair of pants that pull on can work well as trousers.
      >
      > As far as the stroller/carrier, though, I am sorry but have no ideas to
      help you there. Mine were three and four when we first joined before so were
      at an age where they were walking.
      >
      >
      > Maryelizabeth Hancock
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    • Maryelizabeth
      The sling would be a great idea and I found a free pattern with pictures and directions. http://www.mykarmababy.com/pages/BabySlingPattern.php Hope this helps!
      Message 2 of 16 , Jan 2, 2011
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        The sling would be a great idea and I found a free pattern with pictures and directions.

        http://www.mykarmababy.com/pages/BabySlingPattern.php

        Hope this helps!
      • bronwynmgn@aol.com
        Message 3 of 16 , Jan 2, 2011
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          <<I will be attending my first SCA event with my husband on January 22nd. I have a 1.5 year old son. I usually wear him or put him in a stroller, but all of my carriers are very modern. For those of you with little ones, what do you do?>>
          I used a red wooden wagon with a seat in it at that age, and a fairly modern sling when my son was younger. I chose not to take a modern stroller but many people do.

          <<Also, what would you recommend for a toddler friendly outfit? Just a tunic?>>

          My son wore (and still wears) simple tunics with either sweat pants or solid-colored girls leggings under them. For hot events, I made him some very simple white linen shorts (basically what medieval men wore for underwear) to cover his diapers. For cold events I used to put a long-sleeved white onesie under the tunics; now, at nearly 6, I just layer a linen tunic and a wool one, and he has a wool hood as well.
          Brangwayna Morgan
          Shire of Silver Rylle (Lancaster, PA)
          East Kingdom

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        • Kristen Praiswater
          Toddler friendly garb a tunic and pants with the snaps in the legs so you can change diapers easily.  Not sure about how to tote him around though, I always
          Message 4 of 16 , Jan 2, 2011
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            Toddler friendly garb a tunic and pants with the snaps in the legs so you can change diapers easily.  Not sure about how to tote him around though, I always just used a stroller or a wagon.
             
            Valentina della Luna
            mka
            Kristen Praiswater


            --- On Sun, 1/2/11, Michelle <michelle.dunphy@...> wrote:


            From: Michelle <michelle.dunphy@...>
            Subject: [SCA Newcomers] What do you do with your toddler? :)
            To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
            Date: Sunday, January 2, 2011, 9:12 AM


             



            Hello everyone,

            I will be attending my first SCA event with my husband on January 22nd. I have a 1.5 year old son. I usually wear him or put him in a stroller, but all of my carriers are very modern. For those of you with little ones, what do you do?

            Also, what would you recommend for a toddler friendly outfit? Just a tunic?

            Michelle
            (no name yet, that's how new I am!)











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          • Stefan li Rous
            Michelle asked:
            Message 5 of 16 , Jan 3, 2011
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              Michelle asked:
              <<< I will be attending my first SCA event with my husband on January 22nd. I have a 1.5 year old son. I usually wear him or put him in a stroller, but all of my carriers are very modern. For those of you with little ones, what do you do? >>>

              Slings are fairly popular within the SCA.

              See this file in the CHILDREN section of my Stefan's Florilegium. You can find the address at the end of my message.
              baby-slings-msg (9K) 2/ 2/01 Cloth slings for carrying your baby.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/baby-slings-msg.html

              Another item that is often used is a small wagon or cart. These will also work as the child gets older and too heavy to carry around. You can use one of the "red flyer" wagons from the store. If you wish you can decorate them to make them a little less modern looking.
              child-wagons-msg (12K) 8/21/07 Wagons for hauling children at events.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/child-wagons-msg.html

              I see alot of fighters using the heavy-duty garden wagons for hauling their armor around. Either also works well for hauling ice back to camp and other chores. I've also made and used several wooden wheelbarrows. Quite period and they take up less room than wagons and carts.
              In the TRAVEL section of the Florilegium:
              wheelbarrows-msg (8K) 7/14/02 Medieval wheelbarrows.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/TRAVEL/wheelbarrows-msg.html

              <<< Also, what would you recommend for a toddler friendly outfit? Just a tunic? >>>

              Tunics are good. In period that is what the toddlers wore, a uni-sex tunic. Diapers are not period, so a tunic has advantages. I would not spend a lot of time on children's clothing since they will quickly outgrow it. It is a shame for the child to outgrow the tunic you've been working on before you even finish that fancy embroidery you were working on, on it.

              These files, again, in the CHILDREN section of the Florilegium might prove to be useful:
              child-clothes-msg (36K) 1/25/08 Period and SCA children's clothing.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/child-clothes-msg.html

              Chld-Costumes-art (12K) 9/21/08 "Children's Costumes at SCA Events - a personal testimonial" by Mistress Ælflæd of Duckford.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/Chld-Costumes-art.html

              Kindergarb-art (12K) 1/12/03 Thoughts on making children's clothing by Lady Hrosvitha von Celle.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/Kindergarb-art.html

              Here are some other files in this same section you might be interested in. Have you ever been camping with a baby before? If not, I especially recommend this first file. It has a number of precautions to take with infants. The biggest point is that their bodies are still developing the ability to regulate their own heat. So you need to be careful of the heat extremes they are exposed to.

              babies-msg (118K) 1/14/08 Camping with babies.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/babies-msg.html

              feedng-tddlrs-msg (10K) 9/28/09 Feeding toddlers at SCA events.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/feedng-tddlrs-msg.html

              toddlr-tethrs-msg (14K) 4/29/09 Use of tethers/"leading strings" to control toddlers in period and the SCA.
              http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/toddlr-tethrs-msg.html

              Since you are new to the SCA you might also wish to glance through the NEWCOMERS section in the Florilegium. And then perhaps check out some of the other sections. There are now about 2300 different files on the site.

              I hope this helps some.

              Stefan
              --------
              THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
              Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
              **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
            • Michelle Ann Dunphy
              WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We re going to be starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no overnights
              Message 6 of 16 , Jan 4, 2011
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                WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We're going to be
                starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no
                overnights for us. I'm very excited. Thank you thank you!

                Michelle
                (no name yet)

                On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Stefan li Rous
                <stefanlirous@...>wrote:

                >
                >
                > Michelle asked:
                >
                > <<< I will be attending my first SCA event with my husband on January 22nd.
                > I have a 1.5 year old son. I usually wear him or put him in a stroller, but
                > all of my carriers are very modern. For those of you with little ones, what
                > do you do? >>>
                >
                > Slings are fairly popular within the SCA.
                >
                > See this file in the CHILDREN section of my Stefan's Florilegium. You can
                > find the address at the end of my message.
                > baby-slings-msg (9K) 2/ 2/01 Cloth slings for carrying your baby.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/baby-slings-msg.html
                >
                > Another item that is often used is a small wagon or cart. These will also
                > work as the child gets older and too heavy to carry around. You can use one
                > of the "red flyer" wagons from the store. If you wish you can decorate them
                > to make them a little less modern looking.
                > child-wagons-msg (12K) 8/21/07 Wagons for hauling children at events.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/child-wagons-msg.html
                >
                > I see alot of fighters using the heavy-duty garden wagons for hauling their
                > armor around. Either also works well for hauling ice back to camp and other
                > chores. I've also made and used several wooden wheelbarrows. Quite period
                > and they take up less room than wagons and carts.
                > In the TRAVEL section of the Florilegium:
                > wheelbarrows-msg (8K) 7/14/02 Medieval wheelbarrows.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/TRAVEL/wheelbarrows-msg.html
                >
                >
                > <<< Also, what would you recommend for a toddler friendly outfit? Just a
                > tunic? >>>
                >
                > Tunics are good. In period that is what the toddlers wore, a uni-sex tunic.
                > Diapers are not period, so a tunic has advantages. I would not spend a lot
                > of time on children's clothing since they will quickly outgrow it. It is a
                > shame for the child to outgrow the tunic you've been working on before you
                > even finish that fancy embroidery you were working on, on it.
                >
                > These files, again, in the CHILDREN section of the Florilegium might prove
                > to be useful:
                > child-clothes-msg (36K) 1/25/08 Period and SCA children's clothing.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/child-clothes-msg.html
                >
                > Chld-Costumes-art (12K) 9/21/08 "Children's Costumes at SCA Events - a
                > personal testimonial" by Mistress �lfl�d of Duckford.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/Chld-Costumes-art.html
                >
                > Kindergarb-art (12K) 1/12/03 Thoughts on making children's clothing by Lady
                > Hrosvitha von Celle.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/Kindergarb-art.html
                >
                > Here are some other files in this same section you might be interested in.
                > Have you ever been camping with a baby before? If not, I especially
                > recommend this first file. It has a number of precautions to take with
                > infants. The biggest point is that their bodies are still developing the
                > ability to regulate their own heat. So you need to be careful of the heat
                > extremes they are exposed to.
                >
                > babies-msg (118K) 1/14/08 Camping with babies.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/babies-msg.html
                >
                > feedng-tddlrs-msg (10K) 9/28/09 Feeding toddlers at SCA events.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/feedng-tddlrs-msg.html
                >
                > toddlr-tethrs-msg (14K) 4/29/09 Use of tethers/"leading strings" to control
                > toddlers in period and the SCA.
                > http://www.florilegium.org/files/CHILDREN/toddlr-tethrs-msg.html
                >
                > Since you are new to the SCA you might also wish to glance through the
                > NEWCOMERS section in the Florilegium. And then perhaps check out some of the
                > other sections. There are now about 2300 different files on the site.
                >
                > I hope this helps some.
                >
                > Stefan
                > --------
                > THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
                > Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...<StefanliRous%40austin.rr.com>
                > **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
                >
                >
                >


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              • Stefan li Rous
                Michelle replied to me with:
                Message 7 of 16 , Jan 5, 2011
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                  Michelle replied to me with:
                  <<< WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We're going to be
                  starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no
                  overnights for us. I'm very excited. Thank you thank you! >>>

                  First, my apologies if I'm overloading you with information. I'm afraid I can do that to folks. If it's too much, just tell me enough for now. You will find all types of folks in the SCA. Some are extroverted, some are quite quiet, some are reserved (me) until you get them talking.

                  One of the nice things about the SCA is that it is often easier to talk to people you've not met before. But if you are feeling shy, look around for someone doing something interesting and ask them about it. That might be the guy in the unusual outfit or who seems to be having a lot of fun out on the field. Or that lady doing the interesting needlework. This works at fighter practice as well as at events.

                  Be aware that someone that has all those neat clothes and all those accessories or that elaborate set of eating gear may have been putting that stuff together over a number of years. You're not expected to instantly come up with all of that.

                  Why do you say no overnights for you? The fact that you have a small child? Lack of camping equipment? Not enough space to haul all that stuff needed for a baby/child along on an overnight trip? No experience camping?

                  Some folks come into the SCA with years of experience camping with the Boy Scouts or other groups (me) others don't.

                  One of my favorite SCA phrases is "Some people's idea of camping involves a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul truck." Camping in the SCA doesn't have to be backpacking. For me, an SCA overnight, and particularly a week long event, includes a large, medieval style pavilion, sleeping on a four-poster bed, rugs on the floor, chairs and a table and a lantern.

                  SCA events differ by region and kingdom. You haven't mentioned where you live. Some kingdoms, like Ansteorra (Texas and Oklahoma) are almost all camping events except some inside events in winter. Some kingdoms often have cabins (Gleann Ahhban, Meriedies, Trimaris, the American southeast. Others don't seem to camp much at all except for the two weeks at Pennsic, (the East). Some don't camp because there just aren't a lot of places to go camping (Caid, southern California).

                  Both of your messages have explained "no name yet". I would take some time to figure out a time period and a culture before you worry about a last name. For now you might start thinking about a first name, simply because it makes it easier for folks than learning "Michelle" and then shortly trying to learn your new name.

                  These two files in the NEWCOMERS section of the Florilegium might be of use on names.
                  Choose-a-Name-art (12K) 10/ 3/09 "Choosing a Society Name: Hints for Newcomers" by Dietmar Reinhart von Straubing and Malachias von Morgenstern.
                  http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Choose-a-Name-art.html

                  names-FAQ (14K) 5/ 8/96 Choosing and registering names in the SCA.
                  http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/names-FAQ.html

                  SCA-Personas-art (16K) 6/ 9/01 "On Choosing a Name and a Persona; A Quick and Dirty Guide" by Ld. Daniel Raoul Le Vascon du Navarreí.
                  http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/SCA-Personas-art.html

                  Stefan
                  --------
                  THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
                  Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
                  **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
                • Kyla
                  Some people s idea of camping involves a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul truck. Ha! I like that - may I borrow it? Mine involves an RV. Seriously - I
                  Message 8 of 16 , Jan 5, 2011
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                    "Some people's idea of camping involves a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul
                    truck."
                    Ha!
                    I like that - may I 'borrow' it?
                    Mine involves an RV.
                    Seriously - I couldn't camp if I had no access to A/C - too many allergies!

                    Tabitha Pennywarden
                    Ravenslake, Midlands
                    Middle Kingdom

                    -----Original Message-----
                    From: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com]On
                    Behalf Of Stefan li Rous
                    Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:39 PM
                    To: SCA Newcomers list
                    Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Re: What do you do with your toddler? :)



                    Michelle replied to me with:
                    <<< WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We're going to
                    be
                    starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no
                    overnights for us. I'm very excited. Thank you thank you! >>>

                    First, my apologies if I'm overloading you with information. I'm afraid I
                    can do that to folks. If it's too much, just tell me enough for now. You
                    will find all types of folks in the SCA. Some are extroverted, some are
                    quite quiet, some are reserved (me) until you get them talking.

                    One of the nice things about the SCA is that it is often easier to talk to
                    people you've not met before. But if you are feeling shy, look around for
                    someone doing something interesting and ask them about it. That might be the
                    guy in the unusual outfit or who seems to be having a lot of fun out on the
                    field. Or that lady doing the interesting needlework. This works at fighter
                    practice as well as at events.

                    Be aware that someone that has all those neat clothes and all those
                    accessories or that elaborate set of eating gear may have been putting that
                    stuff together over a number of years. You're not expected to instantly come
                    up with all of that.

                    Why do you say no overnights for you? The fact that you have a small
                    child? Lack of camping equipment? Not enough space to haul all that stuff
                    needed for a baby/child along on an overnight trip? No experience camping?

                    Some folks come into the SCA with years of experience camping with the Boy
                    Scouts or other groups (me) others don't.

                    One of my favorite SCA phrases is "Some people's idea of camping involves
                    a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul truck." Camping in the SCA doesn't have
                    to be backpacking. For me, an SCA overnight, and particularly a week long
                    event, includes a large, medieval style pavilion, sleeping on a four-poster
                    bed, rugs on the floor, chairs and a table and a lantern.

                    SCA events differ by region and kingdom. You haven't mentioned where you
                    live. Some kingdoms, like Ansteorra (Texas and Oklahoma) are almost all
                    camping events except some inside events in winter. Some kingdoms often have
                    cabins (Gleann Ahhban, Meriedies, Trimaris, the American southeast. Others
                    don't seem to camp much at all except for the two weeks at Pennsic, (the
                    East). Some don't camp because there just aren't a lot of places to go
                    camping (Caid, southern California).

                    Both of your messages have explained "no name yet". I would take some time
                    to figure out a time period and a culture before you worry about a last
                    name. For now you might start thinking about a first name, simply because it
                    makes it easier for folks than learning "Michelle" and then shortly trying
                    to learn your new name.

                    These two files in the NEWCOMERS section of the Florilegium might be of
                    use on names.
                    Choose-a-Name-art (12K) 10/ 3/09 "Choosing a Society Name: Hints for
                    Newcomers" by Dietmar Reinhart von Straubing and Malachias von Morgenstern.
                    http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Choose-a-Name-art.html

                    names-FAQ (14K) 5/ 8/96 Choosing and registering names in the SCA.
                    http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/names-FAQ.html

                    SCA-Personas-art (16K) 6/ 9/01 "On Choosing a Name and a Persona; A Quick
                    and Dirty Guide" by Ld. Daniel Raoul Le Vascon du Navarreí.
                    http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/SCA-Personas-art.html

                    Stefan
                    --------
                    THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
                    Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
                    **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****






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                  • Traci Earhart
                    My favorite is You know you are in the SCA when your standard of living improves when you go camping ... From: Kyla Subject: RE: [SCA
                    Message 9 of 16 , Jan 5, 2011
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                      My favorite is " You know you are in the SCA when your standard of living improves when you go camping"

                      --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Kyla <skycat@...> wrote:

                      From: Kyla <skycat@...>
                      Subject: RE: [SCA Newcomers] Re: What do you do with your toddler? :)
                      To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
                      Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 8:13 PM
















                       









                      "Some people's idea of camping involves a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul

                      truck."

                      Ha!

                      I like that - may I 'borrow' it?

                      Mine involves an RV.

                      Seriously - I couldn't camp if I had no access to A/C - too many allergies!



                      Tabitha Pennywarden

                      Ravenslake, Midlands

                      Middle Kingdom



                      -----Original Message-----

                      From: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com]On

                      Behalf Of Stefan li Rous

                      Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2011 2:39 PM

                      To: SCA Newcomers list

                      Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Re: What do you do with your toddler? :)



                      Michelle replied to me with:

                      <<< WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We're going to

                      be

                      starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no

                      overnights for us. I'm very excited. Thank you thank you! >>>



                      First, my apologies if I'm overloading you with information. I'm afraid I

                      can do that to folks. If it's too much, just tell me enough for now. You

                      will find all types of folks in the SCA. Some are extroverted, some are

                      quite quiet, some are reserved (me) until you get them talking.



                      One of the nice things about the SCA is that it is often easier to talk to

                      people you've not met before. But if you are feeling shy, look around for

                      someone doing something interesting and ask them about it. That might be the

                      guy in the unusual outfit or who seems to be having a lot of fun out on the

                      field. Or that lady doing the interesting needlework. This works at fighter

                      practice as well as at events.



                      Be aware that someone that has all those neat clothes and all those

                      accessories or that elaborate set of eating gear may have been putting that

                      stuff together over a number of years. You're not expected to instantly come

                      up with all of that.



                      Why do you say no overnights for you? The fact that you have a small

                      child? Lack of camping equipment? Not enough space to haul all that stuff

                      needed for a baby/child along on an overnight trip? No experience camping?



                      Some folks come into the SCA with years of experience camping with the Boy

                      Scouts or other groups (me) others don't.



                      One of my favorite SCA phrases is "Some people's idea of camping involves

                      a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul truck." Camping in the SCA doesn't have

                      to be backpacking. For me, an SCA overnight, and particularly a week long

                      event, includes a large, medieval style pavilion, sleeping on a four-poster

                      bed, rugs on the floor, chairs and a table and a lantern.



                      SCA events differ by region and kingdom. You haven't mentioned where you

                      live. Some kingdoms, like Ansteorra (Texas and Oklahoma) are almost all

                      camping events except some inside events in winter. Some kingdoms often have

                      cabins (Gleann Ahhban, Meriedies, Trimaris, the American southeast. Others

                      don't seem to camp much at all except for the two weeks at Pennsic, (the

                      East). Some don't camp because there just aren't a lot of places to go

                      camping (Caid, southern California).



                      Both of your messages have explained "no name yet". I would take some time

                      to figure out a time period and a culture before you worry about a last

                      name. For now you might start thinking about a first name, simply because it

                      makes it easier for folks than learning "Michelle" and then shortly trying

                      to learn your new name.



                      These two files in the NEWCOMERS section of the Florilegium might be of

                      use on names.

                      Choose-a-Name-art (12K) 10/ 3/09 "Choosing a Society Name: Hints for

                      Newcomers" by Dietmar Reinhart von Straubing and Malachias von Morgenstern.

                      http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Choose-a-Name-art.html



                      names-FAQ (14K) 5/ 8/96 Choosing and registering names in the SCA.

                      http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/names-FAQ.html



                      SCA-Personas-art (16K) 6/ 9/01 "On Choosing a Name and a Persona; A Quick

                      and Dirty Guide" by Ld. Daniel Raoul Le Vascon du Navarreí.

                      http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/SCA-Personas-art.html



                      Stefan

                      --------

                      THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra

                      Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...

                      **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****



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                    • Michelle Ann Dunphy
                      Haha, well, thank you. It is a lot of information and I have to admit... I m a bit overwhelmed. I guess I have to say enough for now. I m afraid that if I
                      Message 10 of 16 , Jan 5, 2011
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                        Haha, well, thank you. It is a lot of information and I have to admit... I'm
                        a bit overwhelmed. I guess I have to say enough for now. I'm afraid that if
                        I show my husband how much work this is, he'll change his mind. (Not to say
                        he isn't a hard worker, but he's not as interested as I am.)

                        While that does sound like an exquisite style of camping, it also sounds
                        like a fire hazard with a destructive toddler and horrendously expensive.
                        How do you guys do it? Do you always all make your own things? I am crafty,
                        but not THAT crafty. I can knit and that's about it. Also, um, where do you
                        all find the time??

                        I'm in Gylendholt, in Caid. ;)

                        Michelle (I am working on the name thing, but my toddler hasn't been very
                        cooperative with letting me research)

                        On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 12:39 PM, Stefan li Rous
                        <stefanlirous@...>wrote:

                        >
                        >
                        > Michelle replied to me with:
                        >
                        > <<< WOW. Thank you. This is all such wonderful information! We're going to
                        > be
                        > starting small since we cannot afford to go crazy at first, so probably no
                        > overnights for us. I'm very excited. Thank you thank you! >>>
                        >
                        > First, my apologies if I'm overloading you with information. I'm afraid I
                        > can do that to folks. If it's too much, just tell me enough for now. You
                        > will find all types of folks in the SCA. Some are extroverted, some are
                        > quite quiet, some are reserved (me) until you get them talking.
                        >
                        > One of the nice things about the SCA is that it is often easier to talk to
                        > people you've not met before. But if you are feeling shy, look around for
                        > someone doing something interesting and ask them about it. That might be the
                        > guy in the unusual outfit or who seems to be having a lot of fun out on the
                        > field. Or that lady doing the interesting needlework. This works at fighter
                        > practice as well as at events.
                        >
                        > Be aware that someone that has all those neat clothes and all those
                        > accessories or that elaborate set of eating gear may have been putting that
                        > stuff together over a number of years. You're not expected to instantly come
                        > up with all of that.
                        >
                        > Why do you say no overnights for you? The fact that you have a small child?
                        > Lack of camping equipment? Not enough space to haul all that stuff needed
                        > for a baby/child along on an overnight trip? No experience camping?
                        >
                        > Some folks come into the SCA with years of experience camping with the Boy
                        > Scouts or other groups (me) others don't.
                        >
                        > One of my favorite SCA phrases is "Some people's idea of camping involves a
                        > backpack. Mine involves a U-haul truck." Camping in the SCA doesn't have to
                        > be backpacking. For me, an SCA overnight, and particularly a week long
                        > event, includes a large, medieval style pavilion, sleeping on a four-poster
                        > bed, rugs on the floor, chairs and a table and a lantern.
                        >
                        > SCA events differ by region and kingdom. You haven't mentioned where you
                        > live. Some kingdoms, like Ansteorra (Texas and Oklahoma) are almost all
                        > camping events except some inside events in winter. Some kingdoms often have
                        > cabins (Gleann Ahhban, Meriedies, Trimaris, the American southeast. Others
                        > don't seem to camp much at all except for the two weeks at Pennsic, (the
                        > East). Some don't camp because there just aren't a lot of places to go
                        > camping (Caid, southern California).
                        >
                        > Both of your messages have explained "no name yet". I would take some time
                        > to figure out a time period and a culture before you worry about a last
                        > name. For now you might start thinking about a first name, simply because it
                        > makes it easier for folks than learning "Michelle" and then shortly trying
                        > to learn your new name.
                        >
                        > These two files in the NEWCOMERS section of the Florilegium might be of use
                        > on names.
                        > Choose-a-Name-art (12K) 10/ 3/09 "Choosing a Society Name: Hints for
                        > Newcomers" by Dietmar Reinhart von Straubing and Malachias von Morgenstern.
                        > http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/Choose-a-Name-art.html
                        >
                        > names-FAQ (14K) 5/ 8/96 Choosing and registering names in the SCA.
                        > http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/names-FAQ.html
                        >
                        > SCA-Personas-art (16K) 6/ 9/01 "On Choosing a Name and a Persona; A Quick
                        > and Dirty Guide" by Ld. Daniel Raoul Le Vascon du Navarre�.
                        > http://www.florilegium.org/files/NEWCOMERS/SCA-Personas-art.html
                        >
                        >
                        > Stefan
                        > --------
                        > THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
                        > Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...<StefanliRous%40austin.rr.com>
                        > **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
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                      • Maryelizabeth
                        ... I m afraid that if ... I used to be a member of the SCA about 7 years ago. It has taken over 5 years for my husband to agree to try the SCA and so far, he
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                          --- In scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com, Michelle Ann Dunphy <michelle.dunphy@...> wrote:
                          >
                          I'm afraid that if
                          > I show my husband how much work this is, he'll change his mind. (Not to say
                          > he isn't a hard worker, but he's not as interested as I am.)


                          I used to be a member of the SCA about 7 years ago. It has taken over 5 years for my husband to agree to try the SCA and so far, he is gaining more and more interest as time goes on.

                          The way that I have done this was to hide a lot of the work from him. I was not trying to be deceptive but knew that he would become discouraged and overwhelmed quickly due to his disability.

                          I make the garb, do the research, and present to him simple questions. For his garb, he looked through my patterns of fashion and also told me what types of clothing styles he found appealing from various movies. (The Tudors was the show that he leaned toward as far as garb.)

                          Camping is the one area in the SCA that really has my husband, though. Although I am on the Medieval Encampments list, he spends a lot of time looking at various photos and files in the group to gain more and more ideas. He seems to have really found an interest with getting our "travelling home" together.

                          Although I am no where near being an accomplished seamstress nor are either of us expert woodworkers, the simple instructions and diagrams that can be found on the internet have been wonderful and a huge help.

                          The best thing that I found was to just let it be and let him find something of interest. The great thing about the SCA is that there are so many different aspects to it that it would be difficult (in my opinion) to be able to say that nothing is of interest.

                          There are many ways to cut the costs and many ways to spend way too much, I have found. I try to be frugal as much as possible and so far, we have spent very little for the lare amount of "stuff" that we have accumulated in a short time.

                          Hope this helps!

                          Maryelizabeth (Apollonia)
                        • Lee B
                          Greetings Traci.  East Kingdom here. I love this one, I m going to have to use it. I still don t have a Pavillion, but camping does nt quite resemble what I
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                            Greetings Traci.
                             East Kingdom here. I love this one, I"m going to have to use it.
                            I still don't have a Pavillion, but camping does'nt quite resemble what I did with my folks when i was a kid.  We used to get the whole family and gear in the car! Mine is stuffed to the max and I'm not up to the fancy stuff yet!  :- ) but i love it!
                            Lady Beatrice Lilli
                            NH

                            --- On Wed, 1/5/11, Traci Earhart <randtearhart@...> wrote:


                            From: Traci Earhart <randtearhart@...>
                            Subject: RE: [SCA Newcomers] Re: What do you do with your toddler? :)
                            To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
                            Date: Wednesday, January 5, 2011, 11:38 PM


                             



                            My favorite is " You know you are in the SCA when your standard of living improves when you go camping"

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                          • Stefan li Rous
                            Tabitha Pennywarden replied to me with:
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                              Tabitha Pennywarden replied to me with:
                              <<< "Some people's idea of camping involves a backpack. Mine involves a U-haul
                              truck."
                              Ha!
                              I like that - may I 'borrow' it?
                              Mine involves an RV.
                              Seriously - I couldn't camp if I had no access to A/C - too many allergies! >>>

                              Certainly. I heard it from another SCAer. It didn't originate with me.

                              You might find this Florilegium file useful or amusing.
                              SCA-transport-msg (29K) 2/15/10 Typical and unusual SCA vehicles and transportation.
                              http://www.florilegium.org/files/TRAVEL/SCA-transport-msg.html

                              Or if you are the backpacking type, this one:
                              p-backpacks-msg (35K) 9/14/98 Period backpacks, bags and carrying baskets.
                              http://www.florilegium.org/files/TRAVEL/p-backpacks-msg.html

                              Stefan

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                              THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
                              Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
                              **** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
                            • bronwynmgn@aol.com
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                                <<Haha, well, thank you. It is a lot of information and I have to admit... I'm
                                bit overwhelmed. I guess I have to say enough for now. I'm afraid that if
                                show my husband how much work this is, he'll change his mind. (Not to say
                                e isn't a hard worker, but he's not as interested as I am.)>>

                                It doesn't have to be a lot of work unless you want it to be. Lots of people only go to day events, or have a simple modern tent and modern stuff. Those of us who have the elaborate stuff have built it up over years, after taking more years to acquire the desire for it :-)
                                <<While that does sound like an exquisite style of camping, it also sounds
                                ike a fire hazard with a destructive toddler and horrendously expensive.
                                ow do you guys do it? Do you always all make your own things? I am crafty,
                                ut not THAT crafty. I can knit and that's about it. Also, um, where do you
                                ll find the time??>>
                                My son's been camping with us since he was 4 months old. Any flame-powered lighting sources are kept out of his reach, or we use olive oil lamps, which go out if tipped over. We also took two of the Super Playards with us and created a fenced-in area for him that extended slightly out from our pavilion so that he could be inside or outside, but couldn't get out. Once he got older, we still took the playyard, but only put him in it if he refused to stay within the boundaries we set. At nearly 6, he is responsible enough to know where he is and isn't allowed to go - no entering other's tents or camps unless invited, no leaving camp even for the bathroom without telling an adult, stay away from the firepit and the kitchen, etc. Other friends only take their two-year-old camping in a travel trailer with a door that locks :-)
                                The biggest expense was the pavilion; that was several thousand dollars, but with care it could easily last us more than 20 years (nylon modern tents rarely make it past 7 or 8) and is much more comfortable to live in for two weeks than a modern tent could be. Other items have either been made or purchased a little at a time over a decade or more. I'm lucky because my husband is not only a Tech Ed teacher, he also sews. So he made our four-poster bed, and our chandelier, and most of our wooden trunks, as well as sewing our bed curtains and canopy.
                                Many people in teh SCA sell these items, often cheaper than you might get from a retail merchant, but you are often paying for a lot of hand work. Lots of SCA folk will also barter for items, either by trading an item they've made, or no longer want for what they do want, or even bartering services. I bet you could get a lot by bartering babysitting services! As far as the time, we had a LOT more time to do this stuff before our son came along, which is exactly when we did it. Now that he is older, time is becoming more available again.
                                Brangwayna Morgan
                                Shire of Silver Rylle, East Kingdom
                                Lancaster, PA



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