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Re: [SCA Newcomers] Re:Red was for harlots? I don't think so!

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  • cailin.sca@gmail.com
    I appreciate the historical distinction, but I was just talking about colors a new comer could wear to an event... that being said, our kingdom must be full of
    Message 1 of 37 , Jan 5, 2010
      I appreciate the historical distinction, but I was just talking about colors a new comer could wear to an event... that being said, our kingdom must be full of harlots... Everyone wears red here...
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      -----Original Message-----
      From: julian wilson <smnco37@...>
      Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2010 22:27:33
      To: <scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Re:Red was for harlots? I don't think so!

      Cailin,
      �at different historical times and in different Countries , city-states, &c., members of the world's second -oldest profession were required by law to wear clothing incorporating some form of distinguishing mark or colour. However, there were so many variations in the Laws relating to "official" prostitution, that what was respectable in one place and time, could indeed advertise a harlot plying her profession in another.
      However, given that a good Red was one of the more difficult and expensive colours for the dyers to achieve, requiring as it did the use of costly "kermes", - I think you must have been misinformed about that one.�
      The most common colour I heard of being used tolegally identify Harlots by some mandated article of dress, has been Yellow - and this relates to various places in Western Europe between The Norman Conquest and 1600.
      �BUT, that's not true of all of the area throughout the whole of those centuries.

      YiS,
      �Matthewe Baker,
      �Hospitaller for West Dragonshire,
      �Drachenwald.



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    • Bambi TBNL
       Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL I am made for great things by GOD and walk with Pride!!!! Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad see me dance
      Message 37 of 37 , Jan 11, 2010
         Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL


        I am made for great things by GOD
        and walk with Pride!!!!
        Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
        see me dance
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HMtOoXtMs0




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        From: Labhaoise <labhaoise_obeachain@...>
        To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
        Sent: Mon, January 11, 2010 1:41:59 PM
        Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Re:Red was for harlots? I don't think so!

         
        And that is the point, sort of.....

        That at some period of time, be it months, years, or decades, in some location, whether a street, district, country, or class; people did/thought/ acted in given way.....

        Conversely, it cannot be said that Pantone Green 364 IS worn by women of easy virtue (whatever that meant then and there!)
        Labhaoise

        --- In scanewcomers@ yahoogroups. com, Bambi TBNL <hippy_dippy_ dancer@.. .> wrote:
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        > well @ one point in the late 1500 I can prove that a certain shade of GREEN was thought to be for"strumpets" in englandin fact I believe shakepear refers to it in a play or 2, but that is the only thing I can think of....
        >  Bambi (To be named ater) TBNL
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        > I am made for great things by GOD
        > and walk with Pride!!!!
        > Walladah bint al Mustakfi c 1100ad
        > see me dance
        > http://www.youtube com/watch? v=7HMtOoXtMs0
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        > From: Justinos Tekton called Justin <justin@...>
        > To: scanewcomers@ yahoogroups. com
        > Sent: Sat, January 9, 2010 5:10:43 PM
        > Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Re:Red was for harlots? I don't think so!
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        > On Wed, 2010-01-06 at 09:04 +0000, cailin.sca@gmail. com wrote:
        > > I've also failed at communication in this thread
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        > Not at all...your posts are useful and on-topic. This list is just full
        > of helpful people who often join together to elaborate on different
        > facets of a topic under discussion. I don't think you've offended
        > anyone, and I hope none of us have offended you. :-)
        >
        > Kind regards,
        >
        > Justin
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        > Gules, on a bezant a fleam sable and on a chief dovetailed Or two keys
        > fesswise reversed sable.
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        > justin@... http://4th.com/sca/justin/
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