- ... Lochlainn is easily documented as a masculine Gaelic given name appropriateMessage 1 of 5 , Sep 25, 2009View Sourcelochlainn "fjord the ferret" Mahony wrote:
> i too am creating my persona."Lochlainn" is easily documented as a masculine Gaelic given name
> i am called lochlainn Mahony. . ..I come from a noble linage of
> poets in ireland around 1500 . I was born in Killary, County
> Galway, Ireland.
Lochlainn.shtml> appropriate to your period. Good choice!
On the other hand, while it's possible that "Mahony" or some variant
was used in the early 16th century, it would've been in an English
context. That is, a nice Gaelic boy from Killary might've been
called "Leghlen Mahony" or something similar by English speakers, but
not at home, among his own people.
Oxford University Press' _Dictionary of American Family Names_, as
quoted by Ancestry.com <http://www.ancestry.com/facts/Mahoney-name-
meaning.ashx>, says that "Mahoney" is Anglicized from "Ó
Mathghamhna". "Mathghamhna" easily documented <http://
clan affiliation bynames are appropriate to Ireland in your period,
and "Ó Mathghamhna" would be the standard masculine clan affiliation
byname formed from "Mathghamhna" <http://www.medievalscotland.org/
scotnames/quickgaelicbynames/>, so "Lochlainn Ó Mathghamhna" is quite
a reasonable choice. The simple patronymic "Lochlainn mac
Mathghamhna" is another option, equally reasonable.
If you want a Gaelic name and don't like either of the "Mathghamhna"
options, check the Medieval Names Archive guide to Irish and Manx
names <http://s-gabriel.org/names/irish.shtml> for ideas. If you
want an Anglicized Irish name, you'll want to try to determine what
the English would've called someone named Lochlainn. The
aforementioned "Leghlen" is one option <http://www.s-gabriel.org/
names/tangwystyl/lateirish/ormond.html>; there might be others.
You'll also want to determine, for sure, that "Mahony" or a variant
was used in period, before you get too attached to it. (It's very
frustrating to use a name for a year or ten, then decide you want to
register it--for its own sake or so that you can have your own
heraldic device or badge--and discover that you can't because it's
Barony of Bryn Gwlad
Kingdom of Ansteorra
- lochlainn fjord the ferret Mahony said:Message 2 of 5 , Sep 26, 2009View Sourcelochlainn "fjord the ferret" Mahony said:
<<< my chosen style of scribbling is, amongst other things, satire.
however satire has been made illegal due to its presumed power over
peoples' reputations. Poets are believed to have the blood of druids
in them. this unfortunate event caused me to wander the world in
search of nobles interested in a bit of gayety, poetry and sarcasm. >>>
Where did you get this idea that satire was made illegal? Perhaps it
was in a particular area, but there are period examples.
This file in the PERFORMANCE ARTS section of the Florilegium might be
of interest. For that matter, perhaps the other files there might be
of interest as well.
P-Polit-Songs-art (8K) 7/24/02 "Period Political Songs" by Baron
I also have this large Scottish-Irish songbook:
SI-songbook1-art (86K) 5/29/96 A Collection of Scottish and Irish
SI-songbook2-art (72K) 9/17/00 compiled by Ioseph of Locksley.
SI-songbook3-art (77K) 5/29/96 (part 3 of 4)
SI-songbook4-art (86K) 5/29/96 (part 4 of 4)
<<< i enjoy a good laugh and look forward to sharing the muse with
fellow scribes. >>>
There is also a SCRIBAL-ARTS section there then that you also might
find of use.
Do you have ferrets of your own? Or do you just act like one? :-)
In the ANIMALS section:
ferrets-msg (50K) 7/ 6/01 Ferrets in the SCA.and Middle Ages.
Ferret-Basket-art (9K) 1/ 2/99 "Constructing a Ferret's Basket
Hunting" by Pamela Hewitt, the
Ferrets-Hunt-art (17K) 1/ 3/99 "Rabbit Hunting with Ferrets"
by Pamela Hewitt, the Harper.
Ferets-Genets-art (14K) 1/ 4/99 "White Ferrets, Genets, Virgins And
Unicorns" by Pamela Hewitt,
THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
**** See Stefan's Florilegium files at: http://www.florilegium.org ****
- this is a wonderful break down of the names. i appreciate it. yes, Ó Mathghamhna is the more accepted irish name. i admit at this time i am not able toMessage 3 of 5 , Sep 26, 2009View Sourcethis is a wonderful break down of the names. i appreciate it.
yes, "Ó Mathghamhna" is the more accepted irish name. i admit at this time i am not able to pronounce it, so i went with an easier version to pronounce. also, my persona is a wonderer - a poet errant. due to his wanderings, i have chosen a more Anglicized spelling/version of the name. it worked better for when crossing england into the contaminant. also, mahony is one of my family linages. my persona knows that Ó Mathghamhna is the correct spelling of the name, but he accommodates the audience. and lachlainn is kind of an inside joke for me. as i understand it, it was a word used to describe the Norsemen, "viking", invaders as in "those people from the land of the lakes". the area my persona is from was raided a lot. the entire cost got raided. so he is born in ireland, but fathered by a Norseman. he has a loving family so they kept him anyway, lol.
and at some point, i would like to learn how to pronounce Ó Mathghamhna correctly.
barony of caer galen
kingdom of the outlands