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constructed and invented bynames (was: Names: more specific question)

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  • Coblaith Muimnech
    ... That would be either a constructed byname or an invented byname. They re both covered in Part II of the Rules for Submissions
    Message 1 of 11 , Mar 15, 2009
      Sara wrote:
      > I am looking at 14-15th century Bruges (Flanders) Persona.

      > . . .what are the SCA's rules on using "foreign" languages in name
      > creation. For example, let's say I wanted to be Sara the fair and my
      > persona were going to be German. The German word for Fair is schön.
      > Therefore, as a German persona I would be Sara de schön of Sara the
      > Fair.
      >
      > What I would ultimately like to do, is research the flemish language
      > and create my own surname using this method.. . .

      That would be either a constructed byname or an invented byname.
      They're both covered in Part II of the Rules for Submissions
      <http://heraldry.sca.org/heraldry/laurel/rfs.html#2.2>. The rules boil
      down to this: If you're going to make up a name, you'll need to offer
      solid evidence that people from the time, place, and culture to which
      you mean it to belong made names up the same way and might have made up
      the one you did.

      In this case, you'd need to show that:

      1) women living in 14th-15th century Bruges used descriptive bynames
      related to (a) concrete characteristics, if you mean "fair" as in
      "light-colored" or (b) abstract qualities, if you mean "fair" as in
      "pleasing to the eye",

      2) the word you're using for "fair" was used to mean "fair" (in the
      same sense) in 14th-15th-century Flemish, and

      3) the construction you're using is the one (or one of the ones) used
      for descriptive bynames of this type in 14th-15th-century Flemish
      (using the same preposition or article, words in the same cases, etc.).


      > I probably will need to speak with a local herald. . .

      Someone will need to speak to someone who knows something about Flemish
      onomastics. That could be you, working directly with a specialist, or
      your branch herald, working with one for you. But you need specialized
      knowledge to construct or invent a plausible name, not just general
      knowledge about heraldry.


      Coblaith Muimnech
      Barony of Bryn Gwlad
      Kingdom of Ansteorra
      <mailto:Coblaith@...>
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