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Re: [SCA Newcomers] sca garb for females

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  • bronwynmgn@aol.com
    In a message dated 1/19/2009 9:20:39 AM Eastern Standard Time, mam8667@hotmail.com writes:
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 19, 2009
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      In a message dated 1/19/2009 9:20:39 AM Eastern Standard Time,
      mam8667@... writes:

      <<thanks for the replies. here is a little more information. i ma
      working on a persona that is going to be 1500's irish. a female
      pirate. any ideas about costumes and patterns for that?>>

      One of your best sources for Irish clothing is going to be Reconstructing
      History at
      _https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/historical-clothing.php?c=8&d=100&w=1&r=Y_ (https://www.reconstructinghistor
      y.com/historical-clothing.php?c=8&d=100&w=1&r=Y) but you won't find much about pirates there, I'm afraid.
      Female pirates in period were vanishingly rare. This will tell you what 16th
      century Irish women (and men) wore, though. If there was a 15th century Irish
      woman pirate, she might have worn men's clothing of the time. She would not
      have looked like a Pirates of the Caribbean pirate; they are from the 18th
      century, well out of SCA period.

      I had a link to a wonderful article about medieval and renaissance pirates
      and what they really were (as opposed to the myths), but the article is no
      longer there. Once Captain Elias gets over being Laureled, I'm sure he'll be able
      to direct you to what information there is on the topic of female pirates in
      the SCA period.


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    • Callahan Patrick
      Links For Irish Persona In The 1500 s What an ordinary Englishman think he knows about Ireland. http://elizabethan.org/compendium/32.html The Leine
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 19, 2009
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        Links For Irish Persona In The 1500's

        What an ordinary Englishman think he knows about Ireland.
        http://elizabethan.org/compendium/32.html

        The Leine
        http://albanach.org/leine.html

        An Léine Crioch -- The Irish Léine in the 16th century
        https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/irish.php?s=&c=8&d=100&e=&f=&g=&a=190&w=2

        Irish TOTAL ARTICLES: 18
        https://www.reconstructinghistory.com/irish.php?c=8&d=100&w=3&r=Y/dyes.html

        Irish Traditional Clothing
        http://www.the-irish-path.com/irish-traditional-clothing.html


        Kreyze Padreyk 1540's male of Gaulic/Irish decent
        (warning the name Kreyze Padreyk is not correct for any time period)
      • Labhaoise O'Beachain
        There are two Tiny groups of female pirates. And very little information about either. There were a very few women who were ranking pirates in their own
        Message 3 of 9 , Jan 20, 2009
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          There are two Tiny groups of female pirates. And very little
          information about either.

          There were a very few women who were "ranking" pirates in their own
          right. For your purposes, you might try reseaching Grace O'Malley.

          There were woman who pretended to be men, and went pirating. Their
          numbers are mostly unknown, but there were a few who were 'found
          out". The life of a common pirate was pretty mean, so I doubt you
          want to go there....

          Actually there are four groups of women who sailed on pirate ships.

          The third is the wives/companions of pirates. These are mostly from
          later periods, and the information is minimal, mostly an occasional
          mention of women captured with pirate ships.

          Last there were women who where taken aboard for "company" on the
          pirate ships..... If a common pirate's life was mean, what life a
          woman brought aboard to keep them quiecent?

          Here is a list somebody has compiled, although it is mostly out of
          period:

          http://www.deadmentellnotales.com/onlinetexts/womenlist.shtml

          Labhaoise
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