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Re: [SCA Newcomers] Society names (was: Irish names)

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  • Kristen Praiswater
    I think this is one of those things that the more you research the less you ll be confused. Kristen ... From: eowynesque2b@aol.com
    Message 1 of 29 , Jul 7, 2008
      I think this is one of those things that the more you research the less you'll be confused.


      --- On Mon, 7/7/08, eowynesque2b@... <eowynesque2b@...> wrote:
      From: eowynesque2b@... <eowynesque2b@...>
      Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Society names (was: Irish names)
      To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Monday, July 7, 2008, 11:16 AM

      Thank you.

      I'm back to being very confused .... again....perpetuall y even.

      Andrea in Calontir

      -----Original Message-----

      From: Coblaith Mhuimhneach <Coblaith@sbcglobal. net>

      To: scanewcomers@ yahoogroups. com

      Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 5:45 am

      Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Society names (was: Irish names)

      Andrea wrote:

      > . . .I think I'm beginning to stretch my mind around the naming game.

      > . .


      > You have to choose a historically accurate name, but it can't have

      > been a real person.


      > However, if there is a limited number of historical appropriate

      > names....are not we using the name of someone that really

      > existed...?? ?

      Your goal is to choose a name that someone in period might actually

      have used. It doesn't matter whether anyone actually did or not,

      unless the name is so closely associated with a single individual that

      anyone who hears it is going to think of that person instead of you.

      There may have been any number of men in medieval England named "John

      Cornlader", for instance, but if you introduced yourself that way you

      would be John Cornlader to the folks around you. On the other hand,

      there were probably a lot of men named "Leonardo" who lived in or near

      Vinci at some point in their lives, but if you called yourself

      "Leonardo da Vinci" a particular one (who's not you) would leap to mind

      every time someone heard your name.

      The important thing, here, is that you're supposed to be imagining who

      YOU might be if you lived in the Middle Ages or Renaissance, not

      adopting someone else's identity.

      > Or...am I to choose a "first" name that is period authentic, (by

      > default, a name that was used in history) and the "byname" to be my

      > own creation..and be an indication as to the station, location and/or

      > vocation of my fictional persona?

      There are limited circumstances under which one may construct or invent

      a name for use in the Society. The rules about that are in Part II of

      the Rules for Submissions

      <http://heraldry. sca.org/laurel/ rfs.html# 2.2>. But generally the

      easier and quicker approach is to choose a given name and a byname that

      are both documented to a particular naming culture and language and

      that come from roughly the same period. Go to the Medieval Names

      Archive <http://s-gabriel. org/names/>. Read "Choosing a Society Name:

      Hints for Newcomers". Then visit the naming guides for the cultures

      that interest you. You'll find lists of names, and maybe (depending on

      which guide it is) tips on how to put them together in a historically

      accurate way. Use them.

      Coblaith Mhuimhneach

      Barony of Bryn Gwlad

      Kingdom of Ansteorra

      <mailto:Coblaith@sbcglobal. net>

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