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  • tommie boatwright
    Thanks...any comments on the other 3 anyone? ... From: Sara L Uckelman To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:47:53
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      Thanks...any comments on the other 3 anyone?


      ----- Original Message ----
      From: Sara L Uckelman <liana@...>
      To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:47:53 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Good Books or Bad Books?


      Quoth "Dion Burne":
      > 4)The Book Of Irish Names by Iain Zaczek, Illustrated by Jacqui Mair,
      > CR-2001 Barnes & Noble Books, 127 Pages, Few Dog Ears Otherwise Like
      > New Hard Cover Book In Dust Jacket.

      This one I wouldn't spend more than a few bucks on. It uses
      modern forms and discusses modern practices, and is not much
      use for discussion of pre-1600 Irish naming practices.

      -Aryanhwy

      --
      vita sine literis mors est
      http://www.ellipsis .cx/~liana/


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    • Labhaoise O'Beachain
      I d not spend too much on any of them, they are light and modern . By this I mean, they may be a fun read, but the information is not indepth(often
      Message 2 of 5 , Jul 1, 2008
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        I'd not spend too much on any of them, they are "light"
        and "modern". By this I mean, they may be a fun read, but the
        information is not indepth(often incorrect) and mostly 18th/19th
        century rewrites.....

        Books have come up many times, and there have been numerous
        discusions on good/bad books, how to choose books, where to find
        them, etc, if you dig throu the old posts...

        Here are some books that have an Irish connection that I have found
        useful, (note: I like to start with a broad base)

        Land of Women: Tales of Sex and Gender from Early Ireland
        Lisa M. Bitel
        ISBN-13: 9780801485442 - ISBN-10: 0801485444

        Ireland before the Vikings (The Gill history of Ireland)
        Gearoid Mac Niocaill
        ISBN-13: 978-0717105588 - ISBN-10: 071710558X
        *** Gill Histories are not the easiest reads but are nice overviews
        to page through and are usually available cheaply

        Women in Medieval Society (The Middle Ages)
        Susan, Mosher Stuard (Editor)
        ISBN-13: 978-0812210880 - ISBN-10: 0812210883
        *** Easy Read

        'Of Good and Ill Repute': Gender and Social Control in Medieval
        England
        Hanawalt, Barbara A.
        ISBN-13: 978-0195109498 - ISBN-10: 019510949X

        Between Pit and Pedestal: Women in the Middle Ages
        Williams, Marty Newman
        ISBN-13: 978-0910129343 - ISBN-10: 0910129347

        Medieval Households (Studies in Cultural History)
        Herlihy, David
        ISBN-13: 978-0674563759 - ISBN-10: 0674563751
        *** Some people find Herlihy obtuse, but he is considered an expert
        so try one of his books if you have a chance.

        Black Potatoes: The Story of the Great Irish Famine, 1845-1850
        Bartoletti, Susan Campbell
        ISBN-10: 0618548831 - ISBN-13: 978-0618548835
        *** Just the part about how and why the potato had changed ireland
        (VERY LATE)

        The Tain
        Thomas Kinsella (Translator)
        ISBN-10: 0192803735 - ISBN-13: 978-0192803733
        *** Sagas for how the early Irish thought

        The History of Underclothes
        C. Willett Cunnington (Author), PhiIlis Cunnington (Author)
        ISBN-10: 0486271242 - ISBN-13: 978-0486271248
        *** Not deep but fun...

        Daily Living in the Twelfth Century
        Urban Tigner Holmes
        ISBN-10: 0299008541 - ISBN-13: 978-0299008543
        *** Not deep but fun...

        The Courtesan's Arts: Cross-Cultural Perspectives
        Martha Feldman (Editor), Bonnie Gordon (Editor)
        ISBN-10: 0195170296 - ISBN-13: 978-0195170290

        Textiles, Cordage and Raw Fibre from 16-22 Coppergate (The
        Archaeology of York)
        ISBN-10: 0906780799 - ISBN-13: 978-0906780794
        **** I don't own this, I COVET it... very serious series on
        archaeological research

        Tudor Tailor: Reconstructing Sixteenth-Century Dress
        Ninya Mikhaila
        ISBN-10: 0896762556 - ISBN-13: 978-0896762558
        *** a must for the bookshelf can be had for ~$25

        The Medieval Household: Daily Living c.1150-c.1450 (Medieval Finds
        from Excavations in London)
        Geoff Egan
        ISBN-10: 0112904904 - ISBN-13: 978-0112904908

        Visions and Beliefs in the West of Ireland (Forgotten Books)
        Lady Augusta Gregory
        ISBN-10: 1605061441 - ISBN-13: 978-1605061443

        The Celtic World
        Miranda Green (Author)
        ISBN-10: 0415057647 - ISBN-13: 978-0415057646
        *** PRE Period, historical base.... this is a TOME... I read it one
        segment at a time as interests take me.

        Did I mention I read, A LOT! I compiled this list by looking at what
        I've bought (I'm not at home right now), so there are items I love
        not on the list, but my notes may help you find your own favorites...
        Labhaoise









        tommie boatwright <d_burne713@...> wrote:
        >
        > Thanks...any comments on the other 3 anyone?
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message ----
        > From: Sara L Uckelman <liana@...>
        > To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:47:53 PM
        > Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Good Books or Bad Books?
        >
        >
        > Quoth "Dion Burne":
        > > 4)The Book Of Irish Names by Iain Zaczek, Illustrated by Jacqui
        Mair,
        > > CR-2001 Barnes & Noble Books, 127 Pages, Few Dog Ears Otherwise
        Like
        > > New Hard Cover Book In Dust Jacket.
        >
        > This one I wouldn't spend more than a few bucks on. It uses
        > modern forms and discusses modern practices, and is not much
        > use for discussion of pre-1600 Irish naming practices.
        >
        > -Aryanhwy
        >
        > --
        > vita sine literis mors est
        > http://www.ellipsis .cx/~liana/
        >
        >
        > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        >
      • tommie boatwright
        Wow. Quite a list...thanks thouh. I appreciate it. If you have anymore to add once you get home please go right ahead. I m a bookreader myself so a suggested
        Message 3 of 5 , Jul 1, 2008
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          Wow. Quite a list...thanks thouh. I appreciate it. If you have anymore to add once you get home please go right ahead. I'm a bookreader myself so a suggested reading list is awesome.
          *begins searchng the internet and ebay and various places for given titles*


          ----- Original Message ----
          From: Labhaoise O'Beachain <labhaoise_obeachain@...>
          To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Tuesday, July 1, 2008 10:03:34 AM
          Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Good Books or Bad Books?


          I'd not spend too much on any of them, they are "light"
          and "modern". By this I mean, they may be a fun read, but the
          information is not indepth(often incorrect) and mostly 18th/19th
          century rewrites.... .

          Books have come up many times, and there have been numerous
          discusions on good/bad books, how to choose books, where to find
          them, etc, if you dig throu the old posts...

          Here are some books that have an Irish connection that I have found
          useful, (note: I like to start with a broad base)

          Land of Women: Tales of Sex and Gender from Early Ireland
          Lisa M. Bitel
          ISBN-13: 9780801485442 - ISBN-10: 0801485444

          Ireland before the Vikings (The Gill history of Ireland)
          Gearoid Mac Niocaill
          ISBN-13: 978-0717105588 - ISBN-10: 071710558X
          *** Gill Histories are not the easiest reads but are nice overviews
          to page through and are usually available cheaply

          Women in Medieval Society (The Middle Ages)
          Susan, Mosher Stuard (Editor)
          ISBN-13: 978-0812210880 - ISBN-10: 0812210883
          *** Easy Read

          'Of Good and Ill Repute': Gender and Social Control in Medieval
          England
          Hanawalt, Barbara A.
          ISBN-13: 978-0195109498 - ISBN-10: 019510949X

          Between Pit and Pedestal: Women in the Middle Ages
          Williams, Marty Newman
          ISBN-13: 978-0910129343 - ISBN-10: 0910129347

          Medieval Households (Studies in Cultural History)
          Herlihy, David
          ISBN-13: 978-0674563759 - ISBN-10: 0674563751
          *** Some people find Herlihy obtuse, but he is considered an expert
          so try one of his books if you have a chance.

          Black Potatoes: The Story of the Great Irish Famine, 1845-1850
          Bartoletti, Susan Campbell
          ISBN-10: 0618548831 - ISBN-13: 978-0618548835
          *** Just the part about how and why the potato had changed ireland
          (VERY LATE)

          The Tain
          Thomas Kinsella (Translator)
          ISBN-10: 0192803735 - ISBN-13: 978-0192803733
          *** Sagas for how the early Irish thought

          The History of Underclothes
          C. Willett Cunnington (Author), PhiIlis Cunnington (Author)
          ISBN-10: 0486271242 - ISBN-13: 978-0486271248
          *** Not deep but fun...

          Daily Living in the Twelfth Century
          Urban Tigner Holmes
          ISBN-10: 0299008541 - ISBN-13: 978-0299008543
          *** Not deep but fun...

          The Courtesan's Arts: Cross-Cultural Perspectives
          Martha Feldman (Editor), Bonnie Gordon (Editor)
          ISBN-10: 0195170296 - ISBN-13: 978-0195170290

          Textiles, Cordage and Raw Fibre from 16-22 Coppergate (The
          Archaeology of York)
          ISBN-10: 0906780799 - ISBN-13: 978-0906780794
          **** I don't own this, I COVET it... very serious series on
          archaeological research

          Tudor Tailor: Reconstructing Sixteenth-Century Dress
          Ninya Mikhaila
          ISBN-10: 0896762556 - ISBN-13: 978-0896762558
          *** a must for the bookshelf can be had for ~$25

          The Medieval Household: Daily Living c.1150-c.1450 (Medieval Finds
          from Excavations in London)
          Geoff Egan
          ISBN-10: 0112904904 - ISBN-13: 978-0112904908

          Visions and Beliefs in the West of Ireland (Forgotten Books)
          Lady Augusta Gregory
          ISBN-10: 1605061441 - ISBN-13: 978-1605061443

          The Celtic World
          Miranda Green (Author)
          ISBN-10: 0415057647 - ISBN-13: 978-0415057646
          *** PRE Period, historical base.... this is a TOME... I read it one
          segment at a time as interests take me.

          Did I mention I read, A LOT! I compiled this list by looking at what
          I've bought (I'm not at home right now), so there are items I love
          not on the list, but my notes may help you find your own favorites...
          Labhaoise

          tommie boatwright <d_burne713@ ...> wrote:
          >
          > Thanks...any comments on the other 3 anyone?
          >
          >
          > ----- Original Message ----
          > From: Sara L Uckelman <liana@...>
          > To: scanewcomers@ yahoogroups. com
          > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 4:47:53 PM
          > Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Good Books or Bad Books?
          >
          >
          > Quoth "Dion Burne":
          > > 4)The Book Of Irish Names by Iain Zaczek, Illustrated by Jacqui
          Mair,
          > > CR-2001 Barnes & Noble Books, 127 Pages, Few Dog Ears Otherwise
          Like
          > > New Hard Cover Book In Dust Jacket.
          >
          > This one I wouldn't spend more than a few bucks on. It uses
          > modern forms and discusses modern practices, and is not much
          > use for discussion of pre-1600 Irish naming practices.
          >
          > -Aryanhwy
          >
          > --
          > vita sine literis mors est
          > http://www.ellipsis .cx/~liana/
          >
          >
          > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
          >



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