My Rant + My Suggestion: SCA heavy combat lacks any authenticity
- I'm just putting forth my observations as an outsider.
I'm not trolling and to prove it I've even come up with a solution to
what I perceive as a grossly unauthentic aspect of SCA heavy combat.
1. Increase authenticity of heavy sword combat
2. Decrease injury potential of sca weapons
3. Thereby broaden the appeal to others (I knows lots of people who
shun the sca solely because of the combat rules)
4. Thereby increase fun
Any steel sword light enough or short enough (gladius) to wrist snap
as quickly as an sca rattan sword isn't going to bypass plate armor
and certainly isn't going to slash/bludgeon with lethal force.
Any steel sword that can slash/bludgeon plate armor hard enough to
cause trauma is going to weigh far too much to wrist snap like an sca
This is closer to perfect authenticity, but they are holding back a
LOT and it's obviously WAY too dangerous. However, make note how
different it looks from sca combat where the people get close and
start wrist-snapping like crazy, landing 2 blows per second lol.
First, of course, the SCA rules would have to specify a minimum
weight AND minimum length.
Since sca swords are used to slash and pierce, I suggest throwing out
all historical weights for swords designed solely for piercing when
determining minimum requirements.
Based on the historical evidence I propose the SCA adopt a nice and
easy to remember "3 and 3" rule. Where all one handed swords must be
at least 3 feet long from pommel to point and weigh at least 3
pounds. A steel sword with these parameters could be used in the
slashing and piercing manner that sca attempts to emulate.
Now to the solution.
How do you make an SCA one hand sword weigh 3 pounds without turning
social events into bloodbaths?
During my youth I played "fake swords and shields." We used the
wooden handles of toilet plungers and then wrapped a bed sheet around
them. The weight was perfect, mimicking the pace of true sword
fighting and the fact that we were kids ages 13y/o (physically weak)
negated the rigidity of the toilet plunger stick.
Now, if you take something more flexible, like heavy pvc and wrap a
cotton sheet around the lethal portion (last 1.5 feet of length) then
you will have something that is:
1. Much closer or even perfectly weighted to mimick the movement of
authentic slashing steel swords
2. Far less injurious than a rattan stick, but still enough to need
and enjoy wearing armor.
I'd be curious to hear what the "leaders" of SCA have to say about
this idea. I hope this organization isn't plagued by special interest
lobbyists to keep the rattan wrist-snapping around.
- On Tuesday 01 April 2008 08:33:08 Eric Dickey wrote:
> It has been asked that this thread die on this email list and although I amThank you, Lord Dietrich
> enjoying reading this, I agree it is time to let it go off of this list.
> Please continue to discuss this here:
I encourage anyone who wishes to discuss this topic further to move to
the new list. You are of course welcome to remain on *this* list as well,
to discuss issues of specific interest to SCA newcomers. It's the topic
that needs to migrate elsewhere, not the people. :-)
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