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Re: [SCA Newcomers]Gently helping officers do their job

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  • Elizabeth Cember
    Might be more useful to send a list of the highest priority changes. If you re willing/able to assemble current email addresses (in that spiffy
    Message 1 of 1 , Oct 30, 2007
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      Might be more useful to send a list of the highest priority changes. If you're willing/able to assemble current email addresses (in that spiffy name_at_provider_dot_com format to trick the spam-spiders), blurbs on the newcomer info, and information on meeting times/places, you could cut the time involving in updating the website to less than two hours work.

      And then phrase it as "I noticed that the website could use some changes, is there anything I can do to help? I'm pretty good at housework!"


      I bring myself happiness by surrounding myself with beautiful things;
      I bring myself joy by trying to see the beauty in all things.

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      From: "Ziddinaaitzumar@..." <Ziddinaaitzumar@...>
      To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2007 6:32:35 PM
      Subject: Re: [SCA Newcomers] Hi! I'm new to this list

      Whoa, whoa, whoa! Apparently I mis-spoke. My local group is filled with wonderful people! They just aren't "up with the times" with regards to our little canton's website. Too many things don't work on it, and the poor webmaster/webmistre ss (I think it's a ?Webmistress? ?) hasn't had time due to REAL LIFE (nasty thing, that!) to work them out. As a result, the newcomers (the ones who are web-lucid and trying to contact us through it) interested in our particular group are being either discouraged or directed elsewhere - the other, newly formed or forming cantons are more 'web-friendly' . My big problem will be - several, actually - how do I tactfully bring up the points that one very honest, very frustrated newcomer brought up to me, without offending the poor, overloaded webmistress? I'm even thinking about volunteering to clean her house and/or do her laundry if that would help.

      The inevitable 'nasty' people that seem to come out of the woodwork no matter which organization one joins were not in the canton - they were scattered around in various other groups in the general area. Actually, when I count the incidents up, there have only been - um, let's see.... the lady who ran up to me when I was sewing small metal sequins onto a Byzantine T-tunic and blasted at me "Are you taking those off??" She had previously come up to me at an event, looked at my garb, and said those inevitable words "That's not Period!" My response? "Yes, but it's very pretty, isn't it?" She begrudginly admitted "yes" and I never heard from her again.

      Then there was the Laurel/Baroness who ran up to me on more than one occasion and began pawing at my garb without so much as a "by your leave?" (She almost snatched my hat off at our big Winter Celebration. ) The worst of that situation was that the other members kept trying to tell me that it was a COMPLIMENT for this woman to do this!! I eventually chewed this woman out, when I was changing into an Italian Ren dress and looked down to see her hand brushing across my bosom while she commented/complimen ted me on the ruching - but again, she hadn't even acknowledged my existence before she began handling the garb.

      Except for a very recent incident, when I trusted the wrong people with the care of three of my little pets during vacation, and they (a Knight, his Officer lady, and their son) didn't feed or water them for two weeks... One died, and it was only by a miracle that the others survived. Other than that terribly disappointing situation, most of the people I've met have been VERY nice.

      The thing about "gossip" is that sometimes it's true - worse yet, in the loss and endangerment of my pets, someone tried to warn me about the situation, and I didn't listen because I thought it was "gossip". All I can say is, there are many, many trustworthy people in the SCA. Just keep your eyes peeled for the occasional bad apple, and be aware that sometimes that bad apple can work their way a loooong ways up the tree.

      Thanks for your interest and response! Ziddina

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      From: Wolfy <littlegraywolf@ gmail.com>

      This really doesn't sound right.

      I've just watched a bunch of Onion videos, so my head is all into

      "this must be a joke even if it sounds real".

      If your local group really does care about decreasing numbers (I

      indeed seen a few cruel individuals in the SCA unfortunately) , ditch

      them and start your own chapter.

      While it might be hard, it does work.


      On 10/30/07, Sadira Aka Ziddina Ait Zumar <Ziddinaaitzumar@ comcast.net> wrote:

      > Hi! My name is Ziddina, and I'm new to this list, but not exactly new

      > to the SCA. However, after I joined 5 years ago, I had several

      > discouraging incidents that caused me to step away for a few years and

      > basically stop playing. I've just picked up again; decided that a few

      > incidents of carelessness or just plain disappointments shouldn't keep

      > me from playing.


      > I am interested in suggestions for improvements. A person who is

      > completely new has just given me a great deal of information about the

      > obstacles that many newcomers have run into - in this particular case,

      > outdated and/or inadequate information on websites, clique-ishness, and

      > [perhaps] blithe ignorance of the needs of newcomers.


      > I will go back (when I have time; just autocratted a demo called "Boo

      > at the Zoo" in Denver, Colorado) and READ as many of the previous posts

      > as I can without breaking into tears. (Or cussing...) I know that

      > there are those in the group that I am a member of that are concerned

      > about the decreasing membership of our group; this will (hopefully)

      > equip me to tactfully suggest changes. Wish me luck! Ziddina


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      Be who you are and say what you feel because those who mind don't

      matter and those who matter don't mind.

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