Re: Garb for Celts
- Celts are an ancient people--you probably meant later medieval or
Renaissance Scottish or Irish.
Celts were a bunch of tribes and not just the ancestors of the
Scottish and Irish stock. Celts could be found in the Galicia region
of Spain and all over the place. One of the links in here shows a
history timeline for the ancient Celts. I have a lovely, big, fat
book with tons of photos and historical info on the Celts at home.
14th century Scottish (highlands didn't exist by definition yet) garb-
-see what the Irish wore. 14th century Lowlands folk would wear the
same fashions as the English. A good site with info is:
http://www.lothene.demon.co.uk/ (this one is EXCELLENT!)
And I can't praise and thank Kass McCann's RECONSTRUCTING HISTORY.COM
high enough! She also has a Yahoo group and answers posted questions
about the line of patterns she makes based off of actual museum
pieces (accuracy 101, see Kass' site!) Read her beginner's section
and the articles section. See what is the difference between
Hollywood "Scottish" and real history.
BRAVEHEART is historically inccorect!! Forget everything and anything
they throw at you in that movie. (Beep-error! Beep-error! Error!
Fantasy! Error! Scottish men DID NOT wear kilts yet in the time
period the movie is set.)
Modern aniline dyed clan plaid (tartan) is out of the SCA period
(19th century). I know this because I do the Highland Games in Clan
Mackay modern tartan (my clan).
Here's a link to Scottish (13th century) illuminations to see
examples of garb:
This is MUCH more accurate than BRAVEHEART... so start digging. If
you are a beginner, ASK about classes for rectangular construction.
That is going to be your new best friend if you want accurate garb.
Pretty much anyone in the SCA for awhile who sews garb can help you--
ask the garb laurels! They love to help newbies. :)
Here's an article on how to do a basic T-tunic (using rectangular
construction or other method)--used into the early 14th century in
England. You can't go wrong with this garb. :) Very comfy. Think
medieval equivalent of our casual sweats. :) You can make it dressy
in silk and with trim, or plain and functional in either linen or
This one has some garbed figures on this illumination.
Additional sites for history and more info:
Check these out... you can sometimes find clothing details in
archeological stuff (stonework).
Barony of Stromgard
(I researched garb for a medieval Scottish persona--still on the
backburner as England was easier :) )
Thank you so much for this information --- makes it easier to find a
place to start hunting for garb for my hubby.
Adrienne of Ravenshore
Kingdom of the West
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "mackayjenn" <mackayjenn@...> wrote:
> Celts are an ancient people--you probably meant later medieval or
> Renaissance Scottish or Irish.
> Celts were a bunch of tribes and not just the ancestors of the
> Scottish and Irish stock. Celts could be found in the Galicia region
> of Spain and all over the place. One of the links in here shows a
> history timeline for the ancient Celts. I have a lovely, big, fat
> book with tons of photos and historical info on the Celts at home.
> Ancient Celts:
- You're welcome. Glad to be of help. :) I'll go stick my nose back in my
Roman garb book. (I'm still trying hard not to drool all over the yummy
pages-hehehehe..... ;) )
Barony of Stromgard
--- In email@example.com, "Adrienne"
- At 06:26 PM 5/2/2007, you wrote:
><http://www.geocities.com/hansensmtn/toby/basic_tunic.htm>http://www.geocities.com/hansensmtn/toby/basic_tunic.htmThe fold and cut method is okay--I use it for quick and dirty garb
>Here's an article on how to do a basic T-tunic (using rectangular
>construction or other method)--used into the early 14th century in
>England. You can't go wrong with this garb. :) Very comfy. Think
>medieval equivalent of our casual sweats. :) You can make it dressy
>in silk and with trim, or plain and functional in either linen or
for my boys--
but you can do much better with this
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- Well, OK, there's always The T-Tunic the Period Way, but you have to
have more help with that one when you first do it. I did it with help,
and I don't like the front gore and back gore look. Ick... There's more
than one way to do a tunic, though...
Barony of Stromgard
These sites were created be Matthew Newsome curator of
the Scottish Tartan Museum. He has done a lot of
research, in and out of time period and every thing he
writes is generally good.
His articles on SCA time period clothing include "The
Leine -- Early Gaelic Tunic", "The Early History Of
The Kilt", "Pre-Culloden Tartans", and his blog on
"Northumberland Tartan" from Friday, April 28, 2006.
Some of the "Pre-Culloden Tartans" are time period and
many are still being produced today. The tartans are
closest in appearance to time period tartans are:
"Northumberland Tartan", "Shepherd's Check", "Rob Roy
Tartan", "Moncrieff Tartan", "Old MacLachlan Tartan",
and "Robin Hood Tartan". In fact the "Braveheart
Tartan" worn in the movie was not that far off, in
appearance, thought the kilt the shirt and other
aspect of his clothing were wrong.