17143Re: [SCA Newcomers] Re: Names
- Jul 24, 2013Stefan, only one person aside from me uses "Lalleshwari." My persona is
named after a 15th century Kashmiri poetess. The Muslims called her
"Lalla." I was not originally aware that this was a Muslim name and not
simply a nickname, so when people began to give up (immediately) on
pronouncing "Lalleshwari," I told them "Lalla" was fine. One of my friends
picked it up, started pronouncing it "Lahl-lah" (it's supposed to be
pronounced more like "Lull" as in "lullaby,") it made the rounds, and now
it's what most people call me. I don't have the power to change it at this
point and even if I did, they're my friends, and I don't want to argue
every time they call my name. Also, as a woman told me at my last event,
"sometimes the nickname chooses you."
However, I have not registered my persona's name in any form yet. I plan to
bring documentation and look into doing so at Pennsic. I've been playing
since February this year and I've been an official member since earlier
Locally, we have a Lady who has been a member for many years, and she had
some difficulty registering her name at first, but it happened after a few
years. Sometimes heralds disagree.
"There is at least one document where the same person's name is spelled
three different ways, on the same document."
HA ^ :) this makes me happy.
Lalleshwari Sah, called Lalla
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:09 AM, Stefan li Rous <stefanlirous@...
> wrote:[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> Lalleshwari Sah, called Lalla commented:
> <<< P.P.S. What I meant, by doing research and documentation and checking
> the college of heralds, is that you should do that at some point if you
> wish to have your persona's name registered. It's not technically necessary
> to do all that to start using it. A lot of people never register their
> personas' names. >>>
> Yes, you can use a name that you haven't registered or isn't registerable.
> However, I would think carefully before you do such a thing.
> In fact, I would hold off using a name until you have a good idea it *can*
> be registered.
> Even more I would make sure that SOMEONE ELSE hasn't registered a name
> before you start to use it. With the registered names online this is a
> fairly easy thing to do these days. When I registered my name, checking it
> involved getting and checking through a half-dozen floppy disks to make
> sure that it wasn't already registered. :-)
> But don't wait too long. Folks in the Society have a way of making up
> their own name for you, if you wait too long. Ask John the Plain (who
> answered, "I'm just plain John") or Eve the Just (who had said "I'm just
> Eve"). She is now after a number of years trying change that to Astridr.
> One thing to keep in mind is that at first, you really only need a first
> name. You can get along with just that for a while. My AoA scroll says
> "Stephan of Bryn Gwlad", because at that time, a year into playing in the
> Society, I hadn't picked a last name yet. And as you can see, the spelling
> changed also, but spelling was often rather irregular in period. There is
> at least one document where the same person's name is spelled three
> different ways, on the same document.
> Some people will wish to use a nickname that they've already been using
> outside of the SCA. Even if you can't find that name used in your time
> period in your region, sometimes you can come up with formal name which is
> close, but still use the nickname for informal use. Sometimes folks have
> found their nickname used as a last name, but not as a first name, and will
> register the name that way. Lalla, is that what you did?
> This can mean that, even if it passes the heralds as being period, you
> have an odd name, in that while it was used in period, it would be rather
> odd to hear it in your chosen period. The same goes with mixing first and
> last names. Today it would be strange to be Kennedy John or Bush George.
> Also remember that if you choose a difficult to read and pronounce name,
> even if the heralds are good and try their best, you may hear many
> different pronunciations in Court. :-)
> While you can always change your persona name later, the longer and wider
> you are known by that name the harder it will be to change it later.
> Since you rarely write your name on a lot of objects in ways that can't be
> changed later, using a name and then having to register a different
> spelling or different name seldom causes real pain.
> However, I would definitely hold off painting or carving your heraldic
> device on items until after you have that officially registered!
> THLord Stefan li Rous Barony of Bryn Gwlad Kingdom of Ansteorra
> Mark S. Harris Austin, Texas StefanliRous@...
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