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13750Re: [SCA Newcomers] Sideless surcote

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  • Bulgarelli Maria
    Oct 7, 2008
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      Patti,
       
      Try this pattern.  http://www.mediaevalmisc.com/pp21-23.htm%c2%a0It's the one on the top.  That should have different types of surcotes.  If you aren't a good seemstress (You didn't mention) you may want to let someone look at the pattern first.  The Period Patterns are a little ... well difficult. 
      As far as the material, I'll tell you this.  I am a big woman myself.  I also live in HOUSTON.  Believe me when I tell you I would not be wearing anything that isn't a natural fiber outside or in high heat.  That said, you're in Illinois.  I don't know how hot it really gets up there.  I am originally from Philly but that's close to the coast so the humidity may be higher there than where you are.  However, if you plan to wear antyhing during the summer, I'd suggest going with a light natural fiber.  Linen and cotton are best.  People will say linen is better than cotton.  I figure if I can afford more cotton therefore more garb I'd rather use cotton.  Even in the winter you may want a natural fiber rather than synthetic.  You didn't mention if the velvet is a silk velvet or a synthetic velvet so I am assuming it's synthetic.  If it is, wear it sparingly.  I have a wonderful heavy cloak that is made from Panne Velvet and lined with a nice
      fleece.  Really warm.  Great for a cold night by the fire. 
       
      Have fun and good luck.
      Lady Maria
      Shire of Gate's Edge
      Kingdom of Ansteorra

      --- On Tue, 10/7/08, ladyellen2 <ladyellen2@...> wrote:

      From: ladyellen2 <ladyellen2@...>
      Subject: [SCA Newcomers] Sideless surcote
      To: scanewcomers@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Tuesday, October 7, 2008, 2:40 PM






      I'd like to make a sideless surcote for my next gown. I'd like it
      to be close to period. I have several questions:

      ~ Would a heavy cotton be good for the undergown? (kirtle?)
      ~ What would be a good fabric and pattern for a chemise underneath
      the above?
      ~ Would velvet (non-stretch) be good for the surcote itself? It is of
      a fairly substantial weight, and I have a LOT of it.
      ~ I have seen pictures that have the top part of the surcote in one
      fabric, and the bottom starting around the hips in another. Can I
      use a brocade-type fabric for the top?
      ~ Could I bead/jewel said top fabric? (note: this is NOT a heraldic
      surcote, I have no arms as of yet)
      ~ Where would I be able to acquire patterns for the above? (I want
      modest open sides, not the "gates of hell")
      ~ Are there any commercial patterns that are not too terribly warped
      to go off of? (note- I am a big girl, and will have to enlarge any
      pattern that I find. That's why I think I will like this
      style....it' s LOOSE!)

      Any help is appreciated. This will be my first foray into 'period'
      sewing. I have done renaissance- ish for the faires, but it is time
      to move on up <cue theme>. Thank you. ;)

      Patti
      Shire of Ravenslake
      Middle Kingdom
      Crystal Lake, IL















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