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  • Anthony J. Bryant
    ... They re not Japanese. They re European pattens. Very old ones. They should be in a museum. I ve sent the seller a note; she s going to lose a lot of money
    Message 1 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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      Anna wrote:

      > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
      > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
      > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
      > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?

      They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones. They should be
      in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a lot of money
      if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...

      Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.

      Effingham
    • Alcyoneus
      The inconvenience of ethics... Alcyoneus ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 2 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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        The inconvenience of ethics...

        Alcyoneus

        At 03:34 AM 7/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
        >Anna wrote:
        >
        > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
        > >
        > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
        > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
        > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?
        >
        >They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones. They should be
        >in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a lot of money
        >if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
        >
        >Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
        >
        >Effingham


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      • Anthony J. Bryant
        ... Yeah. It can be a pain, sometimes. Effingham
        Message 3 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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          Alcyoneus wrote:

          >The inconvenience of ethics...
          >
          >
          Yeah. It can be a pain, sometimes. <G>


          Effingham
        • ELAINE KOOGLER
          I believe they are what the description says...patens or slops ...and I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian. I ve seen pictures in costume
          Message 4 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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            I believe they are what the description says...patens or "slops"...and
            I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian. I've seen
            pictures in costume books and elsewhere that show people wearing just
            such items to keep their fancy leather or fabric shoes out of the mud.
            The shape of the front end (squarish) leads me to believe also that
            they are late period as shoes at that time tended to have squared-off
            front ends. So no, I don't believe that they are any kind of geta.

            Kiri



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            From: Anna <andrivete@...>
            Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 3:24 am
            Subject: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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          • ELAINE KOOGLER
            Tony, You re a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I ll help drive
            Message 5 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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              Tony,
              You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
              on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
              help drive the price up!

              Kiri



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              From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
              Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 4:34 am
              Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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              > Anna wrote:
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              > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
              >
              > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
              >
              > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
              >
              > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are
              > worn?
              >
              >
              > They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones.
              > They should be
              >
              > in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a
              > lot of money
              >
              > if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
              >
              >
              >
              > Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
              >
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              >
              > Effingham
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            • Choronzey, Marc
              I was at an event this weekend where someone had made himself a pair and thought to myself how they somewhat looked like long-ish geta. funny how life works
              Message 6 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                I was at an event this weekend where someone had made himself a pair and
                thought to myself how they somewhat looked like long-ish geta. funny how
                life works sometimes. :)

                -Shisen.

                -Marc Choronzey
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                > -----Message d'origine-----
                > De: ELAINE KOOGLER
                > Date: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:28 AM
                > À: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
                > Objet: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?
                >
                > Tony,
                > You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
                > on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
                > help drive the price up!
                >
                > Kiri
                >
                >
                >
                > ----- Original Message -----
                > From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
                > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 4:34 am
                > Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?
                >
                > > <span><p><span><p>
                > >
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                > > <tt>
                > > Anna wrote:
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
                > >
                > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
                > >
                > > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
                > >
                > > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are
                > > worn?
                > >
                > >
                > > They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones.
                > > They should be
                > >
                > > in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a
                > > lot of money
                > >
                > > if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
                > >
                > >
                > >
                > > Effingham
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              • Anthony J. Bryant
                ... That s because she s changed the text. I sent her a note sometime in the middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she sent me a note
                Message 7 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                  ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:


                  > I believe they are what the description says...patens or "slops"...and
                  > I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian.

                  That's because she's changed the text. I sent her a note sometime in the
                  middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she sent me a
                  note saying she was going to change all the text based on what I'd sent her.

                  Let's just say that if you know geta, the original commentary was... um...
                  humorous. <G>

                  Effingham
                • Anthony J. Bryant
                  ... LOL! Well... heck... Maybe we should all up the price a buck or two. As I told her in my e-mail, I really do think these belong in a museum, and they
                  Message 8 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                    ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:

                    > Tony,
                    > You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
                    > on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
                    > help drive the price up!
                    >

                    LOL! Well... heck...

                    Maybe we should all up the price a buck or two. As I told her in my e-mail, I really do think these
                    belong in a museum, and they should get a price that reflects that.

                    T.
                  • ELAINE KOOGLER
                    OK...I guess I didn t see the original. I did talk with Phillip about the whole thing last night and, if I should by some remote chance win the bid, I plan to
                    Message 9 of 12 , Jul 9, 2003
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                      OK...I guess I didn't see the original. I did talk with Phillip about
                      the whole thing last night and, if I should by some remote chance win
                      the bid, I plan to check with the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore (has
                      a FABULOUS Medieval collection) to see if they would like to have
                      them. If so, we will donate them. However, I suspect it is highly
                      unlikely that I will get them.

                      See you soon, I hope!

                      Kiri



                      ----- Original Message -----
                      From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
                      Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 8:33 pm
                      Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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                      > ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > > I believe they are what the description says...patens or
                      > "slops"...and
                      > > I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > That's because she's changed the text. I sent her a note sometime
                      > in the
                      >
                      > middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she
                      > sent me a
                      >
                      > note saying she was going to change all the text based on what I'd
                      > sent her.
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Let's just say that if you know geta, the original commentary
                      > was... um...
                      >
                      > humorous. <G>
                      >
                      >
                      >
                      > Effingham
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                    • Solveig
                      Baron Edward! Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can try to buying them and then peddle them to a museum. -- Your Humble Servant
                      Message 10 of 12 , Jul 11, 2003
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                        Baron Edward!

                        Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can
                        try to buying them and then peddle them to a museum.

                        --

                        Your Humble Servant
                        Solveig Throndardottir
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                      • Anna
                        Argh! Why is she selling them on E-bay of all places?! Thanks for your replies everyone. ^_^ -Anna ... CoS | ... Est | ... to | ... filters.
                        Message 11 of 12 , Jul 11, 2003
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                          Argh! Why is she selling them on E-bay of all places?!
                          Thanks for your replies everyone. ^_^
                          -Anna

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                          > Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can
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