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  • Anna
    I found these on ebay, and I ve never seen anything like them. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll? ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084 Does anyone know
    Message 1 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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      I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
      http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
      ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
      Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?
      -Anna
    • Anthony J. Bryant
      ... They re not Japanese. They re European pattens. Very old ones. They should be in a museum. I ve sent the seller a note; she s going to lose a lot of money
      Message 2 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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        Anna wrote:

        > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
        > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
        > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
        > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?

        They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones. They should be
        in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a lot of money
        if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...

        Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.

        Effingham
      • Alcyoneus
        The inconvenience of ethics... Alcyoneus ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
        Message 3 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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          The inconvenience of ethics...

          Alcyoneus

          At 03:34 AM 7/8/2003 -0500, you wrote:
          >Anna wrote:
          >
          > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
          > >
          > <http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
          > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
          > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?
          >
          >They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones. They should be
          >in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a lot of money
          >if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
          >
          >Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
          >
          >Effingham


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        • Anthony J. Bryant
          ... Yeah. It can be a pain, sometimes. Effingham
          Message 4 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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            Alcyoneus wrote:

            >The inconvenience of ethics...
            >
            >
            Yeah. It can be a pain, sometimes. <G>


            Effingham
          • ELAINE KOOGLER
            I believe they are what the description says...patens or slops ...and I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian. I ve seen pictures in costume
            Message 5 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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              I believe they are what the description says...patens or "slops"...and
              I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian. I've seen
              pictures in costume books and elsewhere that show people wearing just
              such items to keep their fancy leather or fabric shoes out of the mud.
              The shape of the front end (squarish) leads me to believe also that
              they are late period as shoes at that time tended to have squared-off
              front ends. So no, I don't believe that they are any kind of geta.

              Kiri



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              From: Anna <andrivete@...>
              Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 3:24 am
              Subject: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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              > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are worn?
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            • ELAINE KOOGLER
              Tony, You re a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I ll help drive
              Message 6 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                Tony,
                You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
                on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
                help drive the price up!

                Kiri



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                From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
                Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 4:34 am
                Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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                > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
                >
                > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
                >
                > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
                >
                > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are
                > worn?
                >
                >
                > They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones.
                > They should be
                >
                > in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a
                > lot of money
                >
                > if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
                >
                >
                >
                > Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
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                > Effingham
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              • Choronzey, Marc
                I was at an event this weekend where someone had made himself a pair and thought to myself how they somewhat looked like long-ish geta. funny how life works
                Message 7 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                  I was at an event this weekend where someone had made himself a pair and
                  thought to myself how they somewhat looked like long-ish geta. funny how
                  life works sometimes. :)

                  -Shisen.

                  -Marc Choronzey
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                  > -----Message d'origine-----
                  > De: ELAINE KOOGLER
                  > Date: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 8:28 AM
                  > À: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
                  > Objet: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?
                  >
                  > Tony,
                  > You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
                  > on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
                  > help drive the price up!
                  >
                  > Kiri
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > ----- Original Message -----
                  > From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
                  > Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 4:34 am
                  > Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?
                  >
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                  > > Anna wrote:
                  > >
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                  > > > I found these on ebay, and I've never seen anything like them.
                  > >
                  > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?
                  > >
                  > > > ViewItem&item=2543730682&category=20084
                  > >
                  > > > Does anyone know what period they are from, and how they are
                  > > worn?
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > They're not Japanese. They're European pattens. Very old ones.
                  > > They should be
                  > >
                  > > in a museum. I've sent the seller a note; she's going to lose a
                  > > lot of money
                  > >
                  > > if she sells them as Japanese geta to someone who knows...
                  > >
                  > >
                  > >
                  > > Aw, crap. Another opportunity blown.
                  > >
                  > >
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                  > > Effingham
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                • Anthony J. Bryant
                  ... That s because she s changed the text. I sent her a note sometime in the middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she sent me a note
                  Message 8 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                    ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:


                    > I believe they are what the description says...patens or "slops"...and
                    > I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian.

                    That's because she's changed the text. I sent her a note sometime in the
                    middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she sent me a
                    note saying she was going to change all the text based on what I'd sent her.

                    Let's just say that if you know geta, the original commentary was... um...
                    humorous. <G>

                    Effingham
                  • Anthony J. Bryant
                    ... LOL! Well... heck... Maybe we should all up the price a buck or two. As I told her in my e-mail, I really do think these belong in a museum, and they
                    Message 9 of 12 , Jul 8, 2003
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                      ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:

                      > Tony,
                      > You're a better person than I am. I have to admit to just having bid
                      > on them. I have absolutely no hope of getting them, but at least I'll
                      > help drive the price up!
                      >

                      LOL! Well... heck...

                      Maybe we should all up the price a buck or two. As I told her in my e-mail, I really do think these
                      belong in a museum, and they should get a price that reflects that.

                      T.
                    • ELAINE KOOGLER
                      OK...I guess I didn t see the original. I did talk with Phillip about the whole thing last night and, if I should by some remote chance win the bid, I plan to
                      Message 10 of 12 , Jul 9, 2003
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                        OK...I guess I didn't see the original. I did talk with Phillip about
                        the whole thing last night and, if I should by some remote chance win
                        the bid, I plan to check with the Walters Art Gallery in Baltimore (has
                        a FABULOUS Medieval collection) to see if they would like to have
                        them. If so, we will donate them. However, I suspect it is highly
                        unlikely that I will get them.

                        See you soon, I hope!

                        Kiri



                        ----- Original Message -----
                        From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
                        Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 8:33 pm
                        Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Antique Geta?

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                        > ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > > I believe they are what the description says...patens or
                        > "slops"...and
                        > > I agree with the seller that they well may be Venetian.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > That's because she's changed the text. I sent her a note sometime
                        > in the
                        >
                        > middle of the night with some URLs on pattens and slops, and she
                        > sent me a
                        >
                        > note saying she was going to change all the text based on what I'd
                        > sent her.
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Let's just say that if you know geta, the original commentary
                        > was... um...
                        >
                        > humorous. <G>
                        >
                        >
                        >
                        > Effingham
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                      • Solveig
                        Baron Edward! Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can try to buying them and then peddle them to a museum. -- Your Humble Servant
                        Message 11 of 12 , Jul 11, 2003
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                          Baron Edward!

                          Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can
                          try to buying them and then peddle them to a museum.

                          --

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                          Solveig Throndardottir
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                        • Anna
                          Argh! Why is she selling them on E-bay of all places?! Thanks for your replies everyone. ^_^ -Anna ... CoS | ... Est | ... to | ... filters.
                          Message 12 of 12 , Jul 11, 2003
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                            Argh! Why is she selling them on E-bay of all places?!
                            Thanks for your replies everyone. ^_^
                            -Anna

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                            > Greetings from Solveig! They appear to be still for sale. So you can
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