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  • ELAINE KOOGLER
    Oh, that reminds me...we also had a poetry competition. I found one called Zig Zag Waters in one of the books I have. Turns out that it s a 12th century
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      Oh, that reminds me...we also had a poetry competition. I found one
      called Zig Zag Waters in one of the books I have. Turns out that it's
      a 12th century competition (thought that was 'way cool!!). The
      participants would stand on either side of a stream. There would be a
      sake jug and cup placed in a small boat which would be floated across
      the stream from person to person. Each person would add a line to the
      poem that was being created...the person running the competition would
      supply the opening line...and take a drink of sake. Once finished,
      they would place the jug and cup back in the boat and float it across
      the stream to the next person.

      We've never been fortunately enough to have a stream running through
      our site, but we've done the same idea, simply having folks pass the
      sake back and forthe between two lines.

      Works great...we have someone take down all of the lines, which we
      subsequently publish on our web site and our newsletter. The winner is
      the person who, in the opinion of the judges, adds the best line.

      Great fun!!!

      Kiri



      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Choronzey, Marc" <mchoronz@...>
      Date: Monday, June 2, 2003 10:28 am
      Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?

      > <span><p><span><p>
      >
      >
      > <tt>
      > Konnichiwa all,
      >
      >
      >
      > We hold a small (less than 50 people) japanese themed event every
      > other year
      >
      > in Vieux Bourg (Qc, Qc) and we've had haiku competitions, a little
      > kabuki
      > show, kyudo demo, sake workshop, a class on etiquette and on japanese
      >
      > warfare....that I can remember. We are planning to hold another
      > one soon
      >
      > enough and we are also thinking on new activities to run....
      > Origami is
      >
      > good, a basic chado temae (tea ceremony), a sumi-e competition,
      > and I plan
      >
      > on running a very basic taiko workshop... if my drum is finished
      > by that
      >
      > time, of course.... an arts & sciences competition is always
      > apprepriate and
      >
      > I agree with the boffer kendo class for young ones. Personally, I
      > think that
      >
      > without going in the gory details, sumi-e can indeed be fun for
      > kids....
      > just explain to them that it's instinctive line painting, put up a
      > large-ish
      >
      > sheet of paper, black watercolour paint and let'em rip! :)
      >
      >
      >
      > Well, gambatte kudasai! (good luck)
      >
      >
      >
      > -Hozo-ji no hebikagebo Shisen.
      >
      >
      >
      > -Marc Choronzey
      >
      > Support SAC, BMC Montreal
      >
      > work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
      >
      > Page : 514.414.0907
      >
      > Cell : 514.917.4764
      >
      >
      >
      > > -----Message d'origine-----
      >
      > > De: Amanita
      >
      > > Date: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:09 AM
      >
      > > À: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
      >
      > > Objet: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Last night I was coming up with some things for a Japanese event.
      >
      > > Definately Sumo 101 and the following tournament. That would
      > be the
      >
      > > one of the day's highlights. I was also thinking perhaps find
      > somebody
      >
      > > who would be willing to teach classes on Sumi-e or
      > calligraphy, as
      >
      > > well as somebody from the local kendo club, although I wonder
      > if the
      >
      > > marshalls would frown on that. And also, perhaps a tea
      > ceremony would
      >
      > > be good. I know the really formal ones can take a couple of
      > hours to
      >
      > > do, so perhaps a simpler ceremony that beginners could
      > participate in.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > But then I got to thinking-what about the kids?
      >
      > > At first I was thinking kid's Sumo, modified of course. But
      > then I
      >
      > > realised that perhaps even modified Sumo might be too
      > dangerous for
      >
      > > the youngsters. It *is* grappling, after all. And small
      > children would
      >
      > > get bored silly sitting through a tea ceremony or sumi-e
      > class. Not to
      >
      > > mention the messy substances.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > So for starters, I came up with a couple of activities for
      > the kids:
      >
      > > Origami- This could be something for kids and grownups alike.
      > Maybe
      >
      > > have a beginner class that kids could attend, with an
      > advanced class
      >
      > > following, for anyone who wants some more.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Boffer kendo tournament- I've got two foam swords with the
      > consistancy
      >
      > > of thin pool noodles that would be perfect- they're even
      > shaped like
      >
      > > shinai. It would just be a matter of finding or making a few
      > more.
      > > The kids could have their "combat" without worry
      > about getting hurt,
      >
      > > just having fun.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Anyone else wish to add anything? Any more ideas for adult
      > and kid's
      >
      > > activities/classes?
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
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    • Choronzey, Marc
      They do that in the novel Taiko as well.... it does sound like great fun. :) -Shisen. -Marc Choronzey Support SAC, BMC Montreal work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
      Message 2 of 10 , Jun 2, 2003
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        They do that in the novel Taiko as well.... it does sound like great fun. :)

        -Shisen.

        -Marc Choronzey
        Support SAC, BMC Montreal
        work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
        Page : 514.414.0907
        Cell : 514.917.4764

        > -----Message d'origine-----
        > De: ELAINE KOOGLER
        > Date: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:20 PM
        > À: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
        > Objet: Re: RE: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
        >
        > Oh, that reminds me...we also had a poetry competition. I found one
        > called Zig Zag Waters in one of the books I have. Turns out that it's
        > a 12th century competition (thought that was 'way cool!!). The
        > participants would stand on either side of a stream. There would be a
        > sake jug and cup placed in a small boat which would be floated across
        > the stream from person to person. Each person would add a line to the
        > poem that was being created...the person running the competition would
        > supply the opening line...and take a drink of sake. Once finished,
        > they would place the jug and cup back in the boat and float it across
        > the stream to the next person.
        >
        > We've never been fortunately enough to have a stream running through
        > our site, but we've done the same idea, simply having folks pass the
        > sake back and forthe between two lines.
        >
        > Works great...we have someone take down all of the lines, which we
        > subsequently publish on our web site and our newsletter. The winner is
        > the person who, in the opinion of the judges, adds the best line.
        >
        > Great fun!!!
        >
        > Kiri
        >
        >
        >
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: "Choronzey, Marc" <mchoronz@...>
        > Date: Monday, June 2, 2003 10:28 am
        > Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
        >
        > > <span><p><span><p>
        > >
        > >
        > > <tt>
        > > Konnichiwa all,
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > We hold a small (less than 50 people) japanese themed event every
        > > other year
        > >
        > > in Vieux Bourg (Qc, Qc) and we've had haiku competitions, a little
        > > kabuki
        > > show, kyudo demo, sake workshop, a class on etiquette and on japanese
        > >
        > > warfare....that I can remember. We are planning to hold another
        > > one soon
        > >
        > > enough and we are also thinking on new activities to run....
        > > Origami is
        > >
        > > good, a basic chado temae (tea ceremony), a sumi-e competition,
        > > and I plan
        > >
        > > on running a very basic taiko workshop... if my drum is finished
        > > by that
        > >
        > > time, of course.... an arts & sciences competition is always
        > > apprepriate and
        > >
        > > I agree with the boffer kendo class for young ones. Personally, I
        > > think that
        > >
        > > without going in the gory details, sumi-e can indeed be fun for
        > > kids....
        > > just explain to them that it's instinctive line painting, put up a
        > > large-ish
        > >
        > > sheet of paper, black watercolour paint and let'em rip! :)
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > Well, gambatte kudasai! (good luck)
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > -Hozo-ji no hebikagebo Shisen.
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > -Marc Choronzey
        > >
        > > Support SAC, BMC Montreal
        > >
        > > work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
        > >
        > > Page : 514.414.0907
        > >
        > > Cell : 514.917.4764
        > >
        > >
        > >
        > > > -----Message d'origine-----
        > >
        > > > De: Amanita
        > >
        > > > Date: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:09 AM
        > >
        > > > À: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
        > >
        > > > Objet: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > > Last night I was coming up with some things for a Japanese event.
        > >
        > > > Definately Sumo 101 and the following tournament. That would
        > > be the
        > >
        > > > one of the day's highlights. I was also thinking perhaps find
        > > somebody
        > >
        > > > who would be willing to teach classes on Sumi-e or
        > > calligraphy, as
        > >
        > > > well as somebody from the local kendo club, although I wonder
        > > if the
        > >
        > > > marshalls would frown on that. And also, perhaps a tea
        > > ceremony would
        > >
        > > > be good. I know the really formal ones can take a couple of
        > > hours to
        > >
        > > > do, so perhaps a simpler ceremony that beginners could
        > > participate in.
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > > But then I got to thinking-what about the kids?
        > >
        > > > At first I was thinking kid's Sumo, modified of course. But
        > > then I
        > >
        > > > realised that perhaps even modified Sumo might be too
        > > dangerous for
        > >
        > > > the youngsters. It *is* grappling, after all. And small
        > > children would
        > >
        > > > get bored silly sitting through a tea ceremony or sumi-e
        > > class. Not to
        > >
        > > > mention the messy substances.
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > > So for starters, I came up with a couple of activities for
        > > the kids:
        > >
        > > > Origami- This could be something for kids and grownups alike.
        > > Maybe
        > >
        > > > have a beginner class that kids could attend, with an
        > > advanced class
        > >
        > > > following, for anyone who wants some more.
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > > Boffer kendo tournament- I've got two foam swords with the
        > > consistancy
        > >
        > > > of thin pool noodles that would be perfect- they're even
        > > shaped like
        > >
        > > > shinai. It would just be a matter of finding or making a few
        > > more.
        > > > The kids could have their "combat" without worry
        > > about getting hurt,
        > >
        > > > just having fun.
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > > Anyone else wish to add anything? Any more ideas for adult
        > > and kid's
        > >
        > > > activities/classes?
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > >
        > >
        > > >
        > >
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      • lord_aharon_of_talkon
        I ve run three japanese tourney s and 1 asian themed event, so here is a short list for you! There is a book called How things Work: Japan I believe, which
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          I've run three japanese tourney's and 1 asian themed event, so here
          is a short list for you!

          There is a book called "How things Work: Japan" I believe, which is
          for kids. It's a GREAT book (I can't seem to find my copy
          anywhere...ARG!) that shows how to make kites, carp flyers, sushi,
          musical instruments, period hats, No masks, haiku, paper
          screens...just everything under the sun! I strongly recommend
          springing the $10 for it. There is also a newer japanese book, which
          again, I can't find (I just reorganized my books too...wah!) that I
          believe its called something like Seasonal Crafts from Japan, and
          that goes season by season with the festivals, with crafty things to
          make.

          Other things we've done:

          Make a Zen Garden with your surroundings (like a scavenger hunt of
          sorts).
          Make small zen gardens (bring shoe boxes, sand little rocks and you
          got it!)
          Potato woodblock prints (making stamps from potato or you can use
          poured plaster or turnips, or carrots, or lineolium)
          Make temari balls (sorry for the poor spelling)
          Chopstick Dexerity Contests (pick up alphabet soup noodles and spell
          words, pick up lentils, bee-bees, etc)
          Kumihimo Classes (there is a great book on how to available on
          Amazon. Here in Caid there are a number of people who teach classes
          on it)
          Rice Sclputure (this is a lot of fun but it gets SUPER messy...the
          rice has to be sticky and you bring extra veggies for color
          variations, etc)
          Fan Painting
          Haiku contests (and you could give the winners to your local
          newsletter if you get approvals from the writers...chroniclers
          appreciate this stuff usually)
          Paper Mache masks
          Noh Plays (one group did Beauty & the Beast, only like a japanese
          play)

          I know this may sound a little bad, but the moment we started
          allowing rapier into the tourney, we got more people showing up. Our
          marshall had a number of very fun scenarios that revolved around
          fighting in tea houses, against ninja, in bath houses (one the rapier
          people had to hold a towel around their waist as they fought), and
          just tons of other things. I think opening up an event to the rapier
          crowd is a good idea, especially here when Japanese stuff isn't as
          popular as it used to be.

          Also, 20 years ago, Altavia had a camping japanese event where they
          set up this scavanger hunt for the fighters. A quest of sorts, where
          they had to battle against different warriors and evil spirits. Its
          a VERY LONG scenario which took the gentleman 30 minutes to properly
          explain it to me, so I apologize for not sharing. Basically, if you
          can set up "quests" and maybe do a map (which he had) it would be
          very fun...and doing one for kids would be a hoot too. Lots of work
          tho.

          The past events we also had our Iron Chef competition. Those were a
          lot of fun and pretty decent fundraiser.

          Check out the pictures on our web: http://www.sca-
          caid.org/altavia/photos/index.html

          Good luck!

          --Mercy (still in name transition)
        • sean ibanez
          If I recall correctly, this is now called tanka no rengai. It used to be more formal and was waka no rengai. Inthese forms the various writers would take
          Message 4 of 10 , Jun 6, 2003
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            If I recall correctly, this is now called tanka no rengai. It used to be more formal and was waka no rengai. Inthese forms the various writers would take turns writing various stanzas in 575 77 format--the first writer would write 575, the next the 77, and on, though there may have been a different arrangement. That's all I remember reading however.
            Irobe Saburo Yoriie

            "Choronzey, Marc" <mchoronz@...> wrote:
            They do that in the novel Taiko as well.... it does sound like great fun. :)

            -Shisen.

            -Marc Choronzey
            Support SAC, BMC Montreal
            work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
            Page : 514.414.0907
            Cell : 514.917.4764

            > -----Message d'origine-----
            > De: ELAINE KOOGLER
            > Date: Monday, June 02, 2003 12:20 PM
            > �: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
            > Objet: Re: RE: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
            >
            > Oh, that reminds me...we also had a poetry competition. I found one
            > called Zig Zag Waters in one of the books I have. Turns out that it's
            > a 12th century competition (thought that was 'way cool!!). The
            > participants would stand on either side of a stream. There would be a
            > sake jug and cup placed in a small boat which would be floated across
            > the stream from person to person. Each person would add a line to the
            > poem that was being created...the person running the competition would
            > supply the opening line...and take a drink of sake. Once finished,
            > they would place the jug and cup back in the boat and float it across
            > the stream to the next person.
            >
            > We've never been fortunately enough to have a stream running through
            > our site, but we've done the same idea, simply having folks pass the
            > sake back and forthe between two lines.
            >
            > Works great...we have someone take down all of the lines, which we
            > subsequently publish on our web site and our newsletter. The winner is
            > the person who, in the opinion of the judges, adds the best line.
            >
            > Great fun!!!
            >
            > Kiri
            >
            >
            >
            > ----- Original Message -----
            > From: "Choronzey, Marc" <mchoronz@...>
            > Date: Monday, June 2, 2003 10:28 am
            > Subject: RE: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
            >
            > > <span><p><span><p>
            > >
            > >
            > > <tt>
            > > Konnichiwa all,
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > We hold a small (less than 50 people) japanese themed event every
            > > other year
            > >
            > > in Vieux Bourg (Qc, Qc) and we've had haiku competitions, a little
            > > kabuki
            > > show, kyudo demo, sake workshop, a class on etiquette and on japanese
            > >
            > > warfare....that I can remember. We are planning to hold another
            > > one soon
            > >
            > > enough and we are also thinking on new activities to run....
            > > Origami is
            > >
            > > good, a basic chado temae (tea ceremony), a sumi-e competition,
            > > and I plan
            > >
            > > on running a very basic taiko workshop... if my drum is finished
            > > by that
            > >
            > > time, of course.... an arts & sciences competition is always
            > > apprepriate and
            > >
            > > I agree with the boffer kendo class for young ones. Personally, I
            > > think that
            > >
            > > without going in the gory details, sumi-e can indeed be fun for
            > > kids....
            > > just explain to them that it's instinctive line painting, put up a
            > > large-ish
            > >
            > > sheet of paper, black watercolour paint and let'em rip! :)
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > Well, gambatte kudasai! (good luck)
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > -Hozo-ji no hebikagebo Shisen.
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > -Marc Choronzey
            > >
            > > Support SAC, BMC Montreal
            > >
            > > work : 514.420.7888 poste 3221
            > >
            > > Page : 514.414.0907
            > >
            > > Cell : 514.917.4764
            > >
            > >
            > >
            > > > -----Message d'origine-----
            > >
            > > > De: Amanita
            > >
            > > > Date: Monday, June 02, 2003 10:09 AM
            > >
            > > > �: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
            > >
            > > > Objet: [SCA-JML] Things to do at Japanese themed event?
            > >
            > > >
            > >
            > > > Last night I was coming up with some things for a Japanese event.
            > >
            > > > Definately Sumo 101 and the following tournament. That would
            > > be the
            > >
            > > > one of the day's highlights. I was also thinking perhaps find
            > > somebody
            > >
            > > > who would be willing to teach classes on Sumi-e or
            > > calligraphy, as
            > >
            > > > well as somebody from the local kendo club, although I wonder
            > > if the
            > >
            > > > marshalls would frown on that. And also, perhaps a tea
            > > ceremony would
            > >
            > > > be good. I know the really formal ones can take a couple of
            > > hours to
            > >
            > > > do, so perhaps a simpler ceremony that beginners could
            > > participate in.
            > >
            > > >
            > >
            > > > But then I got to thinking-what about the kids?
            > >
            > > > At first I was thinking kid's Sumo, modified of course. But
            > > then I
            > >
            > > > realised that perhaps even modified Sumo might be too
            > > dangerous for
            > >
            > > > the youngsters. It *is* grappling, after all. And small
            > > children would
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            > > > get bored silly sitting through a tea ceremony or sumi-e
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            > > > So for starters, I came up with a couple of activities for
            > > the kids:
            > >
            > > > Origami- This could be something for kids and grownups alike.
            > > Maybe
            > >
            > > > have a beginner class that kids could attend, with an
            > > advanced class
            > >
            > > > following, for anyone who wants some more.
            > >
            > > >
            > >
            > > > Boffer kendo tournament- I've got two foam swords with the
            > > consistancy
            > >
            > > > of thin pool noodles that would be perfect- they're even
            > > shaped like
            > >
            > > > shinai. It would just be a matter of finding or making a few
            > > more.
            > > > The kids could have their "combat" without worry
            > > about getting hurt,
            > >
            > > > just having fun.
            > >
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            > > > Anyone else wish to add anything? Any more ideas for adult
            > > and kid's
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            > > > activities/classes?
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          • Ii Saburou
            ... I seem to recall that you can sometimes start with the end of the poem (the 77) in some instances. I m not sure if this was for the game, or just as a
            Message 5 of 10 , Jun 6, 2003
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              On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, sean ibanez wrote:

              > If I recall correctly, this is now called tanka no rengai. It used to
              > be more formal and was waka no rengai. Inthese forms the various
              > writers would take turns writing various stanzas in 575 77 format--the
              > first writer would write 575, the next the 77, and on, though there may
              > have been a different arrangement. That's all I remember reading
              > however. Irobe Saburo Yoriie

              I seem to recall that you can sometimes start with the end of the poem
              (the 77) in some instances. I'm not sure if this was for the game, or
              just as a general poetic 'challenge' of sorts, though.

              -Ii
            • sean ibanez
              That would indeed be a challenge. ... I seem to recall that you can sometimes start with the end of the poem (the 77) in some instances. I m not sure if this
              Message 6 of 10 , Jun 7, 2003
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                That would indeed be a challenge.

                Ii Saburou <logan@...> wrote:On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, sean ibanez wrote:

                > If I recall correctly, this is now called tanka no rengai. It used to
                > be more formal and was waka no rengai. Inthese forms the various
                > writers would take turns writing various stanzas in 575 77 format--the
                > first writer would write 575, the next the 77, and on, though there may
                > have been a different arrangement. That's all I remember reading
                > however. Irobe Saburo Yoriie

                I seem to recall that you can sometimes start with the end of the poem
                (the 77) in some instances. I'm not sure if this was for the game, or
                just as a general poetic 'challenge' of sorts, though.

                -Ii


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              • Solveig
                Noble Cousins! Greetings from Solveig! This sort of poetry party activity was pretty popular during the Muromachi period and if kyougen about them give any
                Message 7 of 10 , Jun 8, 2003
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                  Noble Cousins!

                  Greetings from Solveig! This sort of poetry party activity was pretty popular
                  during the Muromachi period and if kyougen about them give any idea, they
                  were not necessarily all that super serious.
                  --

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                  Solveig Throndardottir
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