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[SCA-JML] Re: Kesho-Mawashi? and sumo story

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  • Solveig
    Date Dono! Greetings from Solveig! ... The origins of Sumo are MUCh older than 1600. Sumo appears to go back to pre-historical Japan. That does not mean that
    Message 1 of 11 , Jun 1, 2003
      Date Dono!

      Greetings from Solveig!
      >I know the origins of sumo are slightly older than the 1600's...but I
      >do not know when the rules were codefied...if a (demi)period demo
      >could be had at Pennsic...I would enjoy it...and participate, perhaps...

      The origins of Sumo are MUCh older than 1600. Sumo appears to go back
      to pre-historical Japan. That does not mean that modern Sumo predates
      the 19th century.
      --

      Your Humble Servant
      Solveig Throndardottir
      Amateur Scholar

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    • Solveig
      Bad Solveig! That was the maki no uchi division. Watch what you time in future! -- Your Humble Servant Solveig Throndardottir Amateur Scholar
      Message 2 of 11 , Jun 1, 2003
        Bad Solveig!

        That was the maki'no'uchi division. Watch what you time in future!
        --

        Your Humble Servant
        Solveig Throndardottir
        Amateur Scholar

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      • iroadkilli@aol.com
        I have to admit the story shows my age as well. although 20 years didnt fill very long ago. The standards dont really require big guys the minimum size
        Message 3 of 11 , Jun 1, 2003
          I have to admit the story shows my age as well. although 20 years didnt fill
          very long ago.

          The standards dont really require big guys the minimum size requirement
          governing recruits state that an aspiring
          sumotori of 18 or younger must be at lest 170 cm (5'8") tall and weigh at
          lest 70 Kilos (154 lb) over 18 must be 173cm and 75kilos



          In a message dated 6/1/03 1:31:15 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nostrand@...
          writes:

          > Greetings from Solveig! That story has to be pretty old. Takamiyama retired
          > a long long time ago. Takamiyama was pretty popular, but he was seriously
          > over the hill a year or so before he retired. They tried to rig a tournament
          > in his favor so that he could have a good send off. But he lost and shortly
          > after that we was loosing almost all of his bouts and as I recall was
          > actually demoted from the Seki no Uchi division before he finally gave up.
          >
          > All of the professional Sumo wrestlers are big boys. There are minimum
          > height and weight requirements which assure this.
          > --
          >



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        • Richard Brooks
          Just how heavy is mawashi fabric anyway? Especially the nice silk ones. Is it similar in weight to cotton broadcloth? Bridal satin, or taffetta? Authentic silk
          Message 4 of 11 , Jun 1, 2003
            Just how heavy is mawashi fabric anyway? Especially the nice silk ones.
            Is it similar in weight to cotton broadcloth? Bridal satin, or taffetta?
            Authentic silk satin is not something I can find around here, so I need
            a good substitute that will approximate the weight and feel of the
            originals. It also has to hold a knot well, so it does not slip.
            Preferably something washable, as dry cleaning a stack of mawashi after
            an SCA event would no doubt be a PITA, as well as expensive.

            -Hirokawa no Tsuru
          • ELAINE KOOGLER
            If you really want silk satin, I believe that Thai silks has it...and at a fairly reasonable price. Their URL is www.thaisilks.com, and they are great to do
            Message 5 of 11 , Jun 2, 2003
              If you really want silk satin, I believe that Thai silks has it...and
              at a fairly reasonable price. Their URL is www.thaisilks.com, and they
              are great to do business with!

              Kiri



              ----- Original Message -----
              From: Richard Brooks <rjb@...>
              Date: Sunday, June 1, 2003 11:49 pm
              Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Kesho-Mawashi? and sumo story

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              > Just how heavy is mawashi fabric anyway? Especially the nice silk
              > ones.
              > Is it similar in weight to cotton broadcloth? Bridal satin, or
              > taffetta?
              > Authentic silk satin is not something I can find around here, so I
              > need
              > a good substitute that will approximate the weight and feel of the
              >
              > originals. It also has to hold a knot well, so it does not slip.
              >
              > Preferably something washable, as dry cleaning a stack of mawashi
              > after
              > an SCA event would no doubt be a PITA, as well as expensive.
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              > -Hirokawa no Tsuru
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            • Solveig
              Noble Cousin! Greetings from Solveig! ... Those are not exactly itty bitty people. And, they are young and still growing. Add to that the weight-gain regimin
              Message 6 of 11 , Jun 3, 2003
                Noble Cousin!

                Greetings from Solveig!
                > The standards dont really require big guys the minimum size requirement
                >governing recruits state that an aspiring
                >sumotori of 18 or younger must be at lest 170 cm (5'8") tall and weigh at
                >lest 70 Kilos (154 lb) over 18 must be 173cm and 75kilos

                Those are not exactly itty bitty people. And, they are young and still
                growing. Add to that the weight-gain regimin they put them through and
                they turn out pretty big. Even the little ones are usually big boys
                by the time they make it into the juuryou division.
                --

                Your Humble Servant
                Solveig Throndardottir
                Amateur Scholar

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