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Re: [SCA-JML] Aigi

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  • ELAINE KOOGLER
    Actually, no. This is a lot larger and more complicated than what I am thinking of. I suspect maybe the karaginu described and seen in the web link sent by
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 15 6:05 AM
      Actually, no. This is a lot larger and more complicated than what I am
      thinking of. I suspect maybe the karaginu described and seen in the
      web link sent by Makiwara-dono is more on point...though the sleeves of
      the garment seemed to be sewn together down the back and bottom...and
      this garment was not.

      Thanks anyway. In truth, it may be an earlier period garment than the
      Momoyama garb I'm planning...and it may have been restricted to the
      Imperial family...not sure. If so, in either case, it probably
      wouldn't be appropriate for me to wear.

      Kiri



      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Ii Saburou <logan@...>
      Date: Monday, April 14, 2003 10:52 pm
      Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Aigi

      > <span><p><span><p>
      >
      >
      > <tt>
      > Is this what you are looking at:
      >
      > http://www.iz2.or.jp/fukusyoku/busou/35.htm
      >
      >
      >
      > It is, if I am reading it right, a shrine maiden (fujo) to Izumo
      > for
      >
      > temple soliciation from another province.
      >
      >
      >
      > I believe they are calling the outer garment a 'chihaya', and she
      > is
      >
      > wearing kiribakama (lit. 'cut hakama').
      >
      >
      >
      > -Ii
      >
      >
      >
      > On Mon, 14 Apr 2003, ELAINE KOOGLER wrote:
      >
      >
      >
      > > I've been working on getting together the garb I will be
      > wearing for
      >
      > > the handfasting, and I've pretty much settled on wearing an
      > uchikake,
      >
      > > etc., from this period. (I've already ordered the brocase
      > I'm going to
      >
      > > use...can't wait to get it in and start playing!!). However,
      > given the
      >
      > > shape of my body, I don't feel that wearing the aigi as it is
      > shown
      >
      > > here. I am considering wearing a couple of kosode (red one
      > under a
      >
      > > white one) with my red hakama (yes, I'm sure, as Master
      > Edward
      >
      > > indicates here, that there are other names for them). I hope
      > that this
      >
      > > will still be acceptable for this period. I have seen
      > paintings of
      >
      > > such, and I have a doll dressed this way.
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Also, I have read of a garment (Japanese name escapes me at
      > the moment)
      >
      > > that was worn by the very high noble women. The main body
      > was made
      >
      > > like a short jacket with sleeves, only the sleeves were
      > stitched just
      >
      > > to the body and not sewn together in any way. The side seams
      > of the
      >
      > > main body were not sewn together either. It worked kind of
      > like a
      >
      > > mantle, and was an indication of rank. Does anyone know what
      > I'm
      >
      > > talking about? And would it be reasonable for me, as
      > Baroness of Dun
      >
      > > Carraig, to wear one?
      >
      > >
      >
      > > Kiri
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > >
      >
      > > ----- Original Message -----
      >
      > > From: "Anthony J. Bryant" <ajbryant@...>
      >
      > > Date: Monday, April 14, 2003 4:12 am
      >
      > > Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Aigi
      >
      > >
      >
      > > > <span><p><span><p>
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > <tt>
      >
      > > > Ii Saburou wrote:
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;I am seeing something in women's clothing called
      > 'aigi'. The
      >
      > > > kanji are
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;space ('aida'/'kan') and clothing
      > ('ki(ru)'/'chaku'). It
      >
      > > > looks like a
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;really nice kosode worn in Momoyama under an
      > uchikake. Is
      >
      > > > anyone familiar
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;with this?
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > It's another name for the uwagi. Or, rather, it's an
      > uwagi when
      >
      > > > it's
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > worn without an uchikake. From Sasaki:
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &quot;The aigi is a kosode worn under an uchikake
      > is (when not
      >
      > > > wearing an
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > uchikake over it it is called an uwagi) ; moreover,
      > there are
      >
      > > > examples
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > when it is not layered with shitagi. During summer
      > celebrations
      >
      > > > and the
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > like, the uchikake is not worn on the shoulders and the
      > arms are
      >
      > > > taken
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > out of the sleeves and are and wrapped about the waist
      > and the
      >
      > > > aigi
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > shows above the waist.&quot;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > You know the Japanese. They love giving different names
      > to the
      >
      > > > same
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > things when used for different occasions. &quot;Is
      > this a blah-
      >
      > > > blah?&quot; &quot;No,
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > it's a dinglie-doodly. A blah-blah is never worn on
      > Thursday
      >
      > > > afternoons
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > in months with an 'R' in them.&quot;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > Effingham
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > ---------
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > show France how you feel: just say &quot;non&quot;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > http://www.cafeshops.com/justsaynon
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      >
      > > >
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      > > >
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      > > > &gt;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > > &gt;
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
      > > >
      >
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