Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Puffy shoulder vests
- Ii Saburou wrote:
>But manju/manchira aren't really padded per se, any more than any other
> What about MANJU (sp?) I seem to recall seeing an armoured waistcoat that
> covered the shoulders and armpits with a nice bit of padding that would
> probably do well in the SCA,
armour "garment." Perhaps a couple of layers of cloth, but covered with mail
or kikko. Some manchira were made in deliberate imitation of European
doublets, which might account, however, for the shoulder rolls in some
models. (Nobunaga in "Kagemusha" wears one such example.)
> especially if your straps bite into yourOh, yeah. I've seen some otherwise decent Japanese armours ruined by "belt"
> shoulders because you thought they should be free hanging and only
> afterwards saw that most seem to have been extensions of the rear (this is
> why I wish more people would take complete pictures of the armour, and not
> just from the front!)
shoulder straps (that is, cannibalized belts to make the straps). Oy...