Re: [SCA-JML] desperately seeking help
- Thank you thank you! I'm a bit frazzled at the moment
from fretting over upcoming demo and event stuff. So,
my addled brain hasn't fully processed through all the
info. I think, though, this should help me get this
project finished. Thank you so much.
--- Ii Saburou <logan@...> wrote:
> The collar that I did for my noushi was based off ofhttp://modzer0.cs.uaf.edu/~logan/JapaneseHistory/clothes/sokutai/
> what I found in
> "Jidai Ishou no Nuikata". A while ago I started a
> Ihave yet to complete. However, on page 2 of my
> diagrams, figure 8
> shows the general pattern for the collar. Now, I
> did this figure awhile
> ago, but the measurements don't look too off.
> The whole thing should be several layers of
> something relatively stiff. I
> used several layers of starched organza silk for the
> base; a stiffener of
> some sort would probably work, also.
> This base attaches around the collar. Figure 7
> actually shows the shape
> of the okumi (the edge of the front pieces) as I
> made mine from "Jidai
> Ishou no Nuikata"--for simplicity's sake I don't
> think this is necessary
> but it seems to help it to fall better, I think.
> The stiff base is covered with a long rectangle of
> silk, which should be
> the same as the rest of your garment.
> The round bit at one end is actually the knot of the
> frog, the other side
> shows the loop to accept and hold the knot. The
> knot should be put on
> before you finish sewing the rectangle of silk over,
> on the inside, I
> believe. I could be wrong, but that seems the
> cleanest. The knot that
> they use is shown in the book as a 'shaka musubi' or
> Buddha's knot.
> (This also has some instructions on making the__________________________________________________
> noushi or kariginu as
> The other side is just a twisted cord, sewn onto the
> garment at wherever
> it needs to be so that the collar closes properly
> (should be at the
> shoulder, although I wuld move it up or down a few
> inches as needed--this
> is also controlled by the length of cord you use).
> I am not sure how to get the cord to stay twisted,
> however. I'm not sure
> if you need to take and twist the cord yourself,
> leaving just a small bit,
> or if you had to constantly retwist to help it hold
> the knot better. I do
> know that if this is too big or too loose, you will
> lose the knot, which
> can be somewhat embarassing.
> Now, there is one problem I have found, and that has
> to do with the inside
> okumi. It doesn't seem to attach anywhere, so it
> needs to just hang, and
> if it doesn't hang nicely, then it could fall open
> on you. I'm still
> trying to figure out this mystery; some people have
> suggested putting a
> second knot on the inside of the collar (you can
> also hide a button and
> button hole; button should face inwards). I haven't
> seen this done, so I
> am hoping to complete all the layers and see if
> maybe it has to do with
> what I was wearing underneath, or perhaps I need to
> tighten up the frog.
> I'm just knot sure.
> Anyway, I hope that helps some.
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