Re: Too un-period?
- --- In sca-jml@y..., Elaine Koogler <ekoogler@c...> wrote:
> I suspect that this was an outgrowth of the fact that the Japaneseimported
> Chinese culture wholesale during various periods of their history.The
> concept of learning by copying the masters was very important inChina...to
> the point that they published "The Mustard Seed Garden Manual ofPainting" in
> the 16th century, which contained examples of work by the variousmasters of
> different items (grasses, bamboo, etc.) for the student to copy.It's extremely common in europe as well to "copy the masters." In
fact, to this day they still make us pee on art students copy
Michaelangelo and Carvaggio...all those o artists. I've personally
found it very helpful. :)
- I know that in my field of expertise, electronic music (massively OOP here)
I copy the sounds of the great keyboardists and see what I can come up with.
And when I write music in Renaissance style, I mimic the style of Susato or
Praetorius. However, when I write my own music, the only style I copy is my
> It's extremely common in europe as well to "copy the masters." InPee on art students? My my!
> fact, to this day they still make us pee on art students copy
> Michaelangelo and Carvaggio...all those o artists. I've personally
> found it very helpful. :)
> From: Ron Martino <yumitori@...>I did say it was art, con art ;) What can I say? I'm a cranky old guy
> We're drifting off-topic, but I'll throw in my standard 'what is art?'
> comments any way...
> I disagree with those who say 'such-and-such is not art'. Sure it is.
who likes art that's at least a little bit representational and I like
my poetry to rhyme. What a dinosaur!
This stuff of course exists in period, some of the ink splash paintings
and super abstracted calligraphy that's unreadable are almost in the
same category. Since many of the upper class in China set themselves up
as the arbiters of taste, many of the schools that didn't fit the
fashion were not successful and most of their works disappeared. In
Japan they saved almost anything they received from China, so some of
the older, less known schools are preserved there.
For a very low brow take on the literati, see "The Flirting Scholar"
with Gong Li. This may be the ONLY happy Gong Li film!