Re: [SCA-JML] New essay up -- Shinden-zukuri estates
- bun-ami wrote:
> WOW!Thank you.
> Excellent job Baron Edward.
> Now to find some land to actual build one!That's what Izutsu-san said. <G> We both have this fantasy about building and
living in a shinden. He laments that he has all the equipment and fittings at
his disposal (his company does that sort of thing) but not the land, whereas
in America *I* can get the land, but not have the equipment. He said if I ever
build one to let him know, because he wants in on it. <G>
- Izutsu Dono!
Greetings from Solveig! Do you really have access to ALL of
the equipment and fittings? I have aspired to live in a shinden
for at least a good twenty years now. If I ever manage to stop
moving, maybe I could acquire land for one. However, I have to
make it cost no more than a house of the same square footage.
This was also one of the reasons I was interested in living
in West Virginia where they mostly do not have building codes
to worry about. They don't have building codes in rural Missouri
I believe that there is some modest importation of Japanese
building materials. The real expense comes in when you import
Japanese carpenters to put the building together. I think that
it may be possible to use local help. That was one of the
attractions about the school in Rhode Island I interviewed at
this year. They have a school of architecture. Some places have
departments of construction. For that matter, lots of Junior
Colleges have carpentry programs. The real problem is to find
a place that makes a house kit with the pieces precut. Of course
a lot of modern Japanese construction is actual out of fero-
The odd thing is that American house kit manufacturers have been
trying to develop a Japanese market while the Japanese have been
ignoring the American market. Too bad. I would think that a fair
number of them could be moved in the back pages of Sunset, Mother
Jones, &c. The major architectural modification I would like to
see is provision for central HVAC. I think that this can be
achieved by using the sub-floor area and the roof area as an
air plenum for a forced air system. With concrete construction,
the air system could even be placed in the walls so as to have
modest wall vents near the floor or ceiling.
Your Humble Servant
- Barbara Nostrand wrote:
> Izutsu Dono!????
>I'm confused... Why are you asking Izutsu-san about this? He's not here,
> Greetings from Solveig! Do you really have access to ALL of
> the equipment and fittings?
For the record, he does -- they do shrine and temple architectural bits.
> I have aspired to live in a shindenThat would be the challenge.
> for at least a good twenty years now. If I ever manage to stop
> moving, maybe I could acquire land for one. However, I have to
> make it cost no more than a house of the same square footage.
>If I could stand either state.... <G>
> This was also one of the reasons I was interested in living
> in West Virginia where they mostly do not have building codes
> to worry about. They don't have building codes in rural Missouri
>That's where "cheating" comes in.
> I believe that there is some modest importation of Japanese
> building materials. The real expense comes in when you import
> Japanese carpenters to put the building together.
It would pretty much have to be built to Code, and that might call for some
severe changes (structural, not cosmetic).
One thing that might work in terms of dealing with Codes (minimum clearances
and pathways and access and so on) is that it's a recreation of an
historical structure -- but I don't think that sort of argument flies with
Fortunately, there was a time when I was an architecture major (many, many
moons ago) and still have some of my textbooks, so I can do the research on
what is and isn't allowed --at least in terms of structural tolerances.
One of the "differences" would be floor-based radiant heat (the tubes
conducting heated water) in the main areas -- the moya and hisashi -- of the
shinden and tai no ya. Another difference would be that, although raised on
pillars, the part of the buildings directly under these main areas would
also be closed off (i.e., solid, rising foundations) to secure any heating
so that cold air flowing under doesn't negate the heating. That's easy
enough to camouflage, however, as it's set back four feet from the edges of
the veranda, and when covered underneath with lattice work it shouldn't
intrude as a "mundanity".
Oh, yeah. I've been thinking a LOT about this. <G>