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Re: [SCA-JML] Re: silly question looking for pattern for vest thingy

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  • Jeanel Walker
    You guys are awesome!!!! thank you so very much. May the joy of your past be the worst of your tomorrows!!! Jeanel Walker aka Eilionora Takinaga of Kisimull
    Message 1 of 4 , Feb 17, 2010
      You guys are awesome!!!! thank you so very much.


      May the joy of your past be the worst of your tomorrows!!!
      Jeanel Walker aka Eilionora "Takinaga" of Kisimull
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      http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg208/brytephyre/Eilionoriadevicesm.jpg


      --- On Wed, 2/17/10, wodeford <wodeford@...> wrote:

      From: wodeford <wodeford@...>
      Subject: [SCA-JML] Re: silly question looking for pattern for vest thingy
      To: sca-jml@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010, 1:50 PM







       









      --- In sca-jml@yahoogroups .com, Jeanel Walker <brytephyre@ ...> wrote:

      > i have been looking and looking but cant find any good pics. Did not the men wear a vest like jacket over there hakamas and kisoto ?



      BTW, it's called a kosode.



      There's something called the kataginu which was worn in the 16th century as daywear by men of the samurai caste. It looks like this: http://www.wodeford hall.com/ torashibrown. jpg



      Please go to

      http://groups. yahoo.com/ group/sca- jml/files/ Garb%20files/ and choose the file named "Hitatare-types. pdf" to find a pattern.



      There's also something called a dofuku that could have sleeves or be sleeveless and was worn as an over-robe, as well as the jinbaori which was worn specifically over armor by samurai in command of others. You can make a dofuku fairly easily - it's simply a kosode without the overlap panels in the front. Since it's a man's garment, if you opt for sleeves, they should be fully attatched to the body.



      http://www.rhinohid e.cx/tousando/ yoriaku/jinbaori .html

      http://www.rhinohid e.cx/tousando/ yoriaku/img/ misc/jinbaori. jpg



      Saionji no Hanae

      West Kingdom

      has some information on jinbaori, which can be elaborately decorated. They generally have "lapels" in the front.



      > It would be very brocade and outlandish in colors ...bright and vivd

      > Ive know Ive seen them in movies the head of some clan would be wearing it over his part armor, but  I was wondering if there was actual garb like this and what period would it be.

      > or did they just do some movie magic to differentiate the characters.

      > May the joy of your past be the worst of your tomorrows!!!

      > Jeanel Walker aka Eilionora "Takinaga" of Kisimull

      > http://i249. photobucket. com/albums/ gg208/brytephyre /Takinagadevises m.jpg

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