A forwarded question
- I received this question from a group forming in the north of our
kingdom. I don't have the expertise to answer the questions but I know
that the wisdom of this list should be able to answer the question.
We have a member up here that loves to do Origami, and he had a couple
questions. One, he says that there are two different styles of paper
crane, and he is wondering which one is in period. His second
question has to do with the legend of 1000 cranes and how far back it
goes in history. I have managed to find that the art itself is
definitely in period, however I haven't found any documentation about
style. As for the 1000 cranes thing... well, the best I have found is
"legend says"...which is really no help at all.
"You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I
thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible
things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I
take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe."
-Marcus to Franklin in Babylon 5
aka The Ugly Dragon
aka Kita Jiru Toramassa
- On Tue, May 27, 2008 at 9:19 PM, John Lyon <toramassa@...> wrote:
> We have a member up here that loves to do Origami, and he had a coupleThe crane is actually fairly important to origami, as I recall,
> questions. One, he says that there are two different styles of paper
> crane, and he is wondering which one is in period. His second
> question has to do with the legend of 1000 cranes and how far back it
> goes in history. I have managed to find that the art itself is
> definitely in period, however I haven't found any documentation about
> style. As for the 1000 cranes thing... well, the best I have found is
> "legend says"...which is really no help at all.
because many later shapes evolved from it. Unfortunately, though I
don't have the provenance on me, everything I've ever seen points to
it (and the story of 1,000 cranes) as being post-period. Period
origami appears to be much more abstract, and I'm not sure if any of
the animal shapes really show up until after the Edo period.
Unfortunately, due to the medium, it seems that the actual historical
information on it is scarce and hard to come by, as has been noted.
This has not kept me from making small origami tokens for people as a
way to show appreciation of A&S entries, etc.
- --- John Lyon <toramassa@...> wrote:
> We have a member up here that loves to do Origami,As others have said, documentation is sketchy and
> and he had a couple
research is difficult.
The only figures that it seems fairly certain are
period are Yakko-san (the clown figure), and the
waterbomb base, possibly the salt cellar.
Complete Origami by Eric Kenneway ISBN 0-312-00898-8
Sembazuru Orikata _How to Fold a Thousand Cranes_ was
published in 1797 and is where most crane figures make
their first appearance.
It is possible that the simpler bird form, often
called the flapping bird, might be period, but again -
Noshi-zutsumi or noshi-tsutsumi are period and
although some might not consider it origami, it is
Perhaps others have more information.
- On the origami crane:
I'm pretty sure that I remember seeing *somewhere* a kabuto where the
helmet crest was a carved wooden origami crane (how's that for
cognitive dissonance?), lacquered and gilt.
I can't recall the period of the helmet -- it *may* have been Edo.
So while I can't swear that it's period, at least it was sufficiently
in the public consciousness to have become a helmet crest.
- Here is a later and augmented version of the history
of origami notes online:
It cites a book published in 1700 where there is
an illustration of a Kimono that has a design using
the classic paper crane. This indicates that the crane
was well established by 1700 - but alas, not any proof