Re: [SCA-JML] Re: Greetings Friends!
- On Jan 6, 2008 10:10 PM, Jen <bryceandjenonthemoon@...> wrote:
>Remember, we're all nobles ;)
> Thanks Hector, I'd really appreciate that!
> I read on Effinghams' website about how to pick a proper name, but I'm
> having a hard time picking something...Especially surnames-- I like
> the surname Taira, and that is from the Heian period, but it says that
> it was for ex-members of the imperial family when they became
> citizens...So I am worried that I shouldn't use this, because it is
> too requiring of rank....Is Taira ok, or should I look for a more
> mundane surname?
The great thing about Minamoto and Taira is you are specifically
disinherited from any aspirations to the Imperial throne, so no need
to worry there. In addition, just because the original members of the
lineages may have been imperial descendants doesn't mean that their
own descendants had any specific privileges--look at Kiso no Minamoto
no Yoshinaka, so far removed he is often just called 'Kiso no
Yoshinaka'. In a counter-example, the Hojo were called 'Taira' in the
Taiheiki to associate them with the Taira from the Gempei wars--they
were a branch Taira family, but were probably known more as Hojo than
as Taira. So you can see that Taira shows up everywhere, and does not
mean you are claiming any particular privilege.
Very few names would be such that they would be presumptuous of rank.
I would think 'Yamato' would be one of those few (Toyotomi and
Tokugawa, as well, since there were so few of them in period).
Fujiwara, Minamoto, Taira, Oda, Takeda--these are all names of famous
people, but had plenty of scut-ranked folks as well, so you are pretty
safe as long as you don't pick the name of a well-known person (e.g.
Fujiwara no Hiromasa would be pushing it).
- Greetings Solveig
:D The dreaded "jouzo", might as well kill yourself right then and there .;)
----- Original Message ----
From: Solveig Throndardottir <nostrand@...>
Sent: Wednesday, January 9, 2008 1:31:35 AM
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Greetings Friends!
Greetings from Solveig!
> Long and shot of it IMHO is if Ishikawa-dono, is satisfied with itThey may be even more polite and say "jouzu" or engage in some other
> fine but then again maybe he writes out his Japanese persona name
> to a Japanese person who has a wealth of information on kanji names
> of the period and says it means 'fierce defender' and they politely
> say "no it dose not".
sort of flattery.
Your Humble Servant
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