Yes, i have read your page, as it was linked from the Clan Genji site,
and i will say that it was detailed.You describe it as "Very basic?"
As for this:
> (1) There is no evidence that Japanese ever formed names as "of
[some given place]." They may be *from* that place,
> and occasionally thus referenced, but it would not function as a
*name* in the same sense that "John of Gaunt" or
> "Edward of Effingham" function as names. Basically, it just wouldn't
Quoting for your website:
" Those desiring to simply identify themselves as being of a
particular place will make use of the "-no" particle. The form, given
a gentle who, in English, would be named Jirô of Mutsu, would be Mutsu
that works for my idea because Odawara was both a place AND a clan
name. So "Odawara no Takahashi" would seem to work by the standards
your webpage explains, unless i missed something........
as for this:
> (2) Bynames, when used with given-names, go *before* the given name
(thus, "Isamashii [given name]." Using proper
> medieval grammar, however, the appositive of the historical
adjective "Isamashi" would be "Isamashiki [given name]."
> Be warned, however, that in old Japanese, "Isamashi" doesn't mean
"brave": it means "excited."
this i did not know ( as it seems only a speaker of Japanese would
know it and the online translator i used must speak "new" Japanese )so
i can modify accordingly
Odawara no Isamashiki Takahashi
excited? i like that better than courageous..LOL
> (3) The big problem is that Takahashi isn't a given name. It's a
Funny thing, i got it from this website where it is listed as
Japanese male given name:
Now, Takahashi is listed as a given name AND as a surname. so............
Using the charts on your webpage for first elements and endings of
Odawara no Isamashiki Takako
Excited Filial son of Odawara