8966Re: Looking for suggestions for Kofun and Yayoi.
- Dec 30, 2002
> >Again, pish-tosh. This argument depends on the assumption that
> >about clericalism of substantial rank, and that's nowhere impliedin Aine's
> >posts.be part of
> Actually, it did seem to be pretty strongly implied. If he wants to
> the inbeShe, actually. <g> Darn Hiberno-Norse names!
> then I don't have a problem as that was an entire guild with theAnd I don't believe I implied any sort of "substantial rank". I am
> requisite flunkies.
an individual with a YTBD religious occupation-- common, and quite
varied in period. I am also related in some sort of kinship sense
with the person who is the head of our local group-- again, a very
reasonable assumption for Yayoi: since these are clans we're talking
about, EVERYONE down to the lowest laborer can claim a similar kind
of relationship. It's only later that individual family units
overwhelm the old clan system.
(In fact, although I belong to a particular "guild" (say, the
diviners), I'm not so sure that in this period I could rightfully
call it a "Be". It's very possible that the true "Be" concept arose
a little later than Yayoi to replace the old lineages which had these
traditional functions within a clan. Yet another problem with
picking a name...)
Anyway, although I have a religious occupation, I (along with my
entire lineage) am NOT the one calling the shots. When I do
divination, or whatever, I do it entirely within the service of the
leader (or anyone else in the clan who may ask me to do it). That's
what I was raised to do and what most of my immediate relatives do.
For me to say that that gives me the right to also, say, perform
rituals before the kami, or lead the warriors of our clan in battle,
would be ridiculous. Those have absolutely nothing to do with my job.
> >There's a big difference between a shrine priest, for example, andmatter.
> >the head priest of Ise;
> Doesn't matter. Further, I'm sure that you know that it doesn't
Funny, to most of the people I know within the Society, such
distinctions DO matter quite a bit. But perhaps I'm lucky in my
It's important to choose one's battles, and there are many I won't
touch with a ten-foot pole. However, I cannot accept the suggestion
that one should not replicate a religious persona because some people
might get confused and not recognize the difference between your
basic shrine priest (or Benedictine monk, or Zen brother) and a high
religious authority who also wields secular power. That's not a
matter of SCA politics-- it's a matter of good historical
recreation. (It also makes such a persona that much more challenging
to do correctly, because one must confront such misunderstandings.)
I hate sweeping generalizations, they're all dangerous. (Yes, that
statement is itself a sweeping generalization. Bah! :)
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