7011RE: [SCA-JML] Nakanunara
- Jan 10 2:48 PMOk, but what is the history of this? I was only aware that it was a folk
synopsis of their differing styles as tacticians/leaders - with Tokugawa
being the final exemplar since he was the patient one who won out in the
end. Any more background?
From: Anthony J. Bryant [mailto:ajbryant@...]
Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2002 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] Nakanunara
Nate Ledbetter wrote:
> A little help from those more knowledgeable on theHideyoshi's was "Nakashite miyou." A bit stronger than coax, but yeah.
> There is a famous trio of poems, "composed" by Oda
> Nobunaga, Toyotomi Hideyoshi, and Tokugawa Ieyasu, all
> revolving around a hototogisu, or nightengale.
> Although probably not composed until much later, it
> supposedly is a commentary/gives us insight into the
> thinking of each.
> Oda Nobunaga's was
> koroshite shimae
> (forgive my rough translation) If the nightengale
> won't sing, kill it.
> Tokugawa Ieyasu's was
> naku made matou
> If the nightngale won't sing, wait until it does.
> Hideyoshi's was along the lines of "if the nightengale
> won't sing, make it (coax it) to sing."
BTW, I remember some place where others provided their own middle line to
"nakanu nara .... hototogisu."
I liked "nakanu nara / betsu ni ii-n da / hototogisu" (if it doesn't sing,
the nightingale, what does it matter?) and "nakanu nara / kawari ni nakou /
hototogisu" (if it doesn't sing, the nightingale, I'll sing in its place.)
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