26109Re: [SCA-JML] New to group
- Aug 10, 2009Good milady,
Thank you for providing a couple of hours of engaging conversation with
my fellow heralds in the College of Arms. I have a couple of questions,
which I will insert into your message.
> Thank you very much for the fast reply and advise. They have found noWho are 'they'? Your local herald? A consulting table at a large event?
> problem with my device.
An official reply from the Trimarian College of Heralds? The resources
and experience available at each level will affect how comprehensive
your information is.
> it is mountains over a fan with a paw print in the middle. I wouldUnfortunately, this description of your proposed device (which I assume
> like to keep my name as close to my device description as possible.
you plan to use in the form of a mon) leaves me confused as to its exact
appearance. By chance do you have the blazon, as prepared by your
consulting herald, that you could post as an email, or an electronic
image you could post, temporarily, to the Files section here?
> I thought that Japanese prior to the 1600's , women were named forI am not a Japanese names expert, but I would suggest you start by
> objects or elements and that most womens names were not documented. I
> may have been given the wrong information.
exploring the Files section here for directly-available documents and
the Links section for out-of-group references. If that doesn't work, try
using Google to search for 'Japanese Names SCA' -- I know from
experience, in helping my son, that this will produce a broad spectrum
of places to explore.
> Since my device has mountains and the tiger or cat paw on it I wouldLinking your name and device in that fashion is a very good idea.
> like to keep my name revolving around the device since it will pass.
Heraldically, we call that 'canting arms' and it has a very long
tradition in European armory.
I _am_ concerned about your confidence that the device _will_ pass.
There is much that can happen between now (is it officially in the
pipeline to the Laurel Sovereign of Arms? no, because it can't be
submitted without a registered name or an associated in-process name)
and the Laurel meeting where its registration is finally decided. I am
NOT saying that your proposed device will not pass as it is, only that
you must be prepared for some unforeseen event require that the device
In particular, I will point out that the use of a pawprint is what we
(the SCA College of Arms) call one Step From Period Practice (SFPP).
This, in and of itself, is not cause to return the device. But if you
were to depict the mountain in a form that was not known or used in
period, that _would_ be another SFPP and sufficient grounds to return
the device for reconsideration. This is why it is so important for me,
or anyone else wishing to advise you, to see the proposed blazon and
your intended graphical representation.
Does this make sense to you?
I hope that you will understand that I am describing these issues, not
to discourage you, but to educate you about possible problems so that
_we_ can avoid them.
As for the naming issues, there are many others on this list who can
help you far more than I can. I trust they will chime in as the evening
progresses in their time zones.
> Does anyone have any name suggestions? Again I am grateful for all of[...snip...]
> your help.
Freiherr Albrecht Waldfurster
Meister des Pelikan-Ordens
Inh., Gasthaus zum Wilder Mann
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