24023Re: Device Newbie Questions
- Jul 2 10:35 AM
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Kelly Thurman Peters <Nichy@...> wrote:
> I'm not familiar with creating a device at all, I don't understand
> exactly what that means. Does it mean the way the butterfly is turned?
I happen to be something of a herald, so I thought I would comment on
some of your questions here.
Train aspect is a term used in heraldry to describe a 3D or 3/4 aspect
figure. This gives depth to the figure and makes it look like it is
three dimensional. Period western (and SCA) heraldry use 2D figures and
represntations. Think "flat", "face on", or "side on" items. The
blossom is drawn in an acceptable style.
Submitting armory to the College of Arms in the SCA means that you will
need to have a design that can be descibed using the European methods
of heraldry. Appropriate design for Japanese Mon really doesn't matter
from that standpoint (don't get me wrong, I like appropriate period
Japanese Mon, but from a registration standpoint in the SCA it really
If you want a butterfly (think western butterfly pinned into an insect
collection) and you want to put some sakura blossoms on the wings, that
is possible. The butterfly you have now cannot be described as
a "normal" "western" butterfly, and will not (yes I am making
assumptions with this, but based on my experience it is true) be able
to be registered.
As far as the sakura blossom goes, I'm not sure if it could be
registered as such, or simply registered as a "cinq-foil" (a five
petaled flower) with the depiction being artistic license.
The other option is this: If you find a design that is in a Japanese
period style, and you want to use it, go ahead. You just won't be able
to register it, and it won't show up on award scrolls, etc. As long as
you aren't using someone else's historical or SCA armory, no one can
stop you from using a design you like.
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