23771Re: [SCA-JML] question on three petal mon
- May 17, 2008Yes I understand,.
I have seen cherry blossom depicted with three petals, and was thinking it was 'period'.
I was referring to new information of another mail stateing cherry blossom must be depicted with five
petals by SCA heraldic standards.
----- Original Message ----
From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@...>
Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] question on three petal mon
No, actually I wasn't responding as an SCA herald...though I have been
one. However, I'm talking about Japanese standards. Perhaps Master
Edward or Ii-dono could respond. As I said, I know that Japanese
designers in period frequently took liberties with what existed in
nature, but, though I've seen many mon in various books from Japan about
mon, I don't recall seeing a cherry blossom depicted with fewer than 5
hector baez wrote:
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> Thank you for the responses seems by SCA heraldic standards say five
> petals is considered a "cherry blossom" or A plum flower/a standard
> cinquefoil-type flower.
> Was looking for some period information stating that three petals
> sakuras did exist as mon, but guess thats neither here or there....
> rules are rules.
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@comcast. net
> <mailto:ekoogler1% 40comcast. net>>
> Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] question on three petal mon
> Hmmmmm.....there' s a problem here, I think, with terminology. Mon is
> what any device or badge that's Japanese is called. Mine is three
> dragon's claws that meet at the tips on top of a ring. Our clan mon is
> a double-spiraled lightening bolt. Both of these are mon...as is one
> depicting a cherry blossom, chrysanthemum or (as is the case with my
> secondary mon) paulownia leaves and tendrils! Perhaps someone else has
> seen a cherry blossom depicted with three petals, but I have not.
> However, that's not to say that it couldn't be.
> hector baez wrote:
> > Yes Mon, the specific flower it represent would be a sakura mon
> > "cherry blossom device"
> > thank you
> > Hector
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Elaine Koogler <ekoogler1@comcast. net
> > <mailto:ekoogler1% 40comcast. net>>
> > To: sca-jml@yahoogroups .com <mailto:sca- jml%40yahoogroup s.com>
> > Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 3:17:58 AM
> > Subject: Re: [SCA-JML] question on three petal mon
> > Three-petal mon? I've got to think that you're talking about a flower.
> > Mon is the terms used to refer to what Europeans call devices or badges
> > (depending on the type of mon). So far as flowers are concerned, it
> > would probably depend on whether or not the type of flower you have
> > chosen occurs with only three petals. I can't think of anything like
> > that unless it would be a type of orchid, but then I'm not a botanist.
> > I don't know if this helps or not, but perhaps....
> > Kiri
> > Atlantia
> > hector baez wrote:
> > >
> > > Lords and Ladies
> > >
> > > Is a three petal mon "period"?
> > >
> > > And is it Heraldic incorrect to use a three petal mon?
> > >
> > > thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > regards
> > >
> > > hector
> > >
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