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21864Re: [SCA-JML] Another name/mon question...

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  • Solveig Throndardottir
    Nov 20, 2006
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      Noble Cousin!

      Greetings from Solveig! Please understand that even if "Katsuna"
      exists as a family name today, it may still
      be as little as 150 years old. There are two obvious ways to write
      the first letter "katsu" and the "na" part may
      be any number of things. Another possibility is to divide it as ka-
      tsuna, but "tsuna" is also problematic as the
      most common meaning for "tsuna" is "net". So, conceivably, "Katsuna"
      could be "river net" which simply doesn't
      sound much like a family name to me. Where on earth are you getting
      "Katsuna" from?

      There is somebody called "Takatsuna Hirofumi" (b. 1951) at Nihon
      University in Japan. So, we can find "tsuna"
      meaning "net" in modern Japanese family names. However, you can not
      just leave off the "TA" of "Takatsuna" as
      "TAKA" is a single morpheme.

      Please understand that choosing "Takatsuna" as a Japanese family name
      without first demonstrating that it
      really does work as a pre-1600 Japanese family name is not much
      better than saying that !CHYYZKY!CHCHOK
      (where the ! are "clicks") is a 15th century English name for someone
      living in central London. Actually it is
      more equivalent to saying that XYLAPHONY is a good English name of
      the period as it does work in the
      English sound system while !CHYYZKY!CHCHOK does not.

      Regardless, there are no entries for "Katsuna" in Dijirin first edition.
      While Papinot's Historical and Geographical Dictionary of Japan does
      have an entry for a family called "Katsu",
      it does not have an entry for "Katsuna".

      Your Humble Servant
      Solveig Throndardottir
      Amateur Scholar
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