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Re: Irish Times, NRA buying land 27 Dec 2010

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  • Maireid
    The Irish government removed land taxes in 1997, so land speculators can hold onto land without paying land tax! Take a look at what Fred Harrison has to say
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      The Irish government removed land taxes in 1997, so land speculators can hold onto land without paying land tax!
      Take a look at what Fred Harrison has to say about this.
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zZMl_5gTDI
      He has a few u-tube videos worth seeing re. Ireland's first direct experience of 18-year real estate boom-bust cycles.

      Ireland is now on target for the next Business Cycle whereby speculators in land hold on to it for 15 years - tax free, then cash in by either selling to developers or developing themselves and selling off at the top of the next real estate bubble.
      Government complicity is the basis of this Business Cycle.
      And remember, according to the Irish constitution, the Irish State "absolutely" owns all land in Ireland, just as the Crown owns all land "absolutely" in all Commonwealth countries. (See Kevin Cahill's book 'Who Owns the World" for the details. I've written a synopsis of his chapter on Ireland if anyone is interested.

      Wishing everyone a more informed new year!
      Maireid

      --- In savetara@yahoogroups.com, "carmeldiviney" <carmeldiviney@...> wrote:
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      > I have written to all TDs regarding their position on Coillte buyout. First reply as follows:
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      > Fine gael will amalgamate Coillte and Bord Na Mona into a renewable energy company. Not foreign owned.
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      > Sent from my iPhone
      > Enda Kenny
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      > --- In savetara@yahoogroups.com, "Dr. Muireann Ni Bhrolchain" <muireann@> wrote:
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      > > Would explain the whole Rath Lugh incident and Bertie has a track record
      > > with the Chinese government, that's where he made some very nasty
      > > remarks along the lines that he would like to have the power that the
      > > Chinese leader has ... that they can build over anything. Well he
      > > certainly learned from them.
      > > Will they sell off all our millennium trees then that the Government so
      > > kindly gave us in 2000 - to celebrate?
      > > Muireann
      > >
      > > On 28/12/2010 15:21, carmeldiviney wrote:
      > > >
      > > > It's all one big scam of a sellout. here's a very worrying article also:
      > > >
      > > > http://www.tribune.ie/news/home-news/article/2010/dec/19/bertie-ahern-in-expenses-paid-trip-to-china-for-fo/
      > > >
      > > > Bertie Ahern in expenses-paid trip to China for forestry fund
      > > > Ken Foxe, Public Affairs Correspondent
      > > >
      > > > Bertie Ahern on a visit to Beijing in 2005
      > > > FORMER taoiseach Bertie Ahern enjoyed an all-expenses-paid trip to
      > > > China as part of his work as chairman of a forestry investment fund.
      > > >
      > > > Ahern, who has been at the centre of controversy over a possible bid
      > > > by the International Forestry Fund for Coillte, the state forestry
      > > > body which owns 7% of all the land in Ireland, met with the president
      > > > of the Chinese Investment Corporation.
      > > >
      > > > That corporation was set up by the Chinese government and has more
      > > > than EUR250bn to spend on dozens of major international investments.
      > > >
      > > > Last year, it announced a change in strategy, moving away from
      > > > investment in financial assets and switching to resources and property
      > > > acquisition.
      > > >
      > > > Newspapers in China reported that the corporation would focus on
      > > > buying up "natural resources" overseas at low prices and selling them
      > > > on when their values rebounded.
      > > >
      > > > The former taoiseach made the business trip to Beijing three months
      > > > ago but has declined to provide the dates on which he travelled.
      > > >
      > > > According to an official log of Dáil attendance, the former taoiseach
      > > > was present for all sittings of parliament in September. He fobbed in
      > > > for three non-sitting days that month -- 20, 22 and 23 September --
      > > > his attendance record shows. Ahern also attended the two official
      > > > sitting days of the Dáil that month, on 29 and 30 September.
      > > >
      > > > In China, the former taoiseach met with the Chinese Investment
      > > > Corporation and visited various provinces to meet governors and
      > > > forestry officials.
      > > >
      > > > Ahern denied through a spokesman a fortnight ago that the
      > > > International Forestry Fund had any interest in acquiring Coillte.
      > > >
      > > > "As [Ahern] understands it, the International Forestry Fund has no
      > > > intention of putting in a bid for Coillte," the spokesman said.
      > > >
      > > > However, the statement flatly contradicts an interview given by the
      > > > fund's director, Paul Brosnan, to the Sunday Tribune earlier this year.
      > > >
      > > > Asked about a possible bid for Coillte if it were privatised, Brosnan
      > > > said: "We would certainly have an interest in that regard. We have
      > > > always looked at what is on our own doorstep apart from our own
      > > > forestry. We have always had an interest in Coillte. It certainly
      > > > would not be beyond the bounds of possibility that we would acquire it.
      > > >
      > > > "The International Forestry Fund is a fund that acquires properties on
      > > > an international basis [and] if there are good quality assets, they
      > > > will be looked at. If that includes some of Coillte's assets, then
      > > > great; but if that includes assets of the queen or king of the United
      > > > Kingdom, that is fine as well."
      > > >
      > > > Ahern was appointed chairman of the International Forestry Fund late
      > > > last year, a few months after the report of An Bord Snip Nua
      > > > recommended the possible sale of Coillte. It emerged then that the
      > > > fund was registered in the British Virgin Islands and backed by a
      > > > company that specialises in providing offshore banking.
      > > >
      > > > The privatisation of Coillte moved a step closer when it was included
      > > > as one of the bodies for examination as part of the review group of
      > > > state assets. Attempts by Sinn Féin TD Martin Ferris to raise the
      > > > possible sale of the forestry body in the Dáil have been deflected by
      > > > the government.
      > > >
      > > > A response by the Department of Agriculture said: "A review group on
      > > > state assets and liabilities under the chairmanship of Colm McCarthy
      > > > was established by the minister for finance earlier this year to
      > > > examine and provide advice on the proper stewardship of state assets
      > > > and on opportunities for the better use of those assets. The outcome
      > > > of that review is awaited."
      > > >
      > > > December 19, 2010
      > > >
      > > > --- In savetara@yahoogroups.com <mailto:savetara%40yahoogroups.com>,
      > > > joe reilly <joereillydiary@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Muireann
      > > > >
      > > > > Raymond Petterton, Auctioneer Navan was appointed to board of the
      > > > NRA by Minister Dempsey, Mr Potterton
      > > > > also acts on behalf of the IFA in their land negotiations with the NRA
      > > > > Mr Potterton business partner is Loman Dempsey, broither of the
      > > > Minister for Transport Noel Dempsey
      > > > >
      > > > > When I highlighted this in the Sunday Business Post some years ago I
      > > > was attacked by Mr John Brutoin
      > > > > wha spoke highly of Mr Pottertons ability.
      > > > >
      > > > > The minister is still allowing them to purchase lands. The whole NRA
      > > > structure is too close to Fianna Fail
      > > > >
      > > > > Is mise
      > > > >
      > > > > Joe Reilly
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      > > > > > To: Savetara@yahoogroups.com <mailto:Savetara%40yahoogroups.com>
      > > > > > From: muireann@
      > > > > > Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 20:07:34 +0000
      > > > > > Subject: [savetara.com] Irish Times, NRA buying land 27 Dec 2010
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      > > > > > This unelected quango again!
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      > > > http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/ireland/2010/1227/1224286317335.html
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      > > > > > The Irish Times - Monday, December 27, 2010
      > > > > > Claim that roads body still buying farmland
      > > > > >
      > > > > > FRANK McDONALD Environment Editor
      > > > > >
      > > > > > THE NATIONAL Roads Authority (NRA) is continuing to buy up
      > > > farmland for
      > > > > > road schemes that no longer have Government approval due to
      > > > cutbacks in
      > > > > > the capital spending programme, an environmental group has claimed.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Plan Better, a coalition formed by An Taisce, Friends of the Earth,
      > > > > > Feasta and Friends of the Irish Environment, said 22,000 acres of
      > > > > > agricultural land could be purchased over the next four years for
      > > > "ghost
      > > > > > roads".
      > > > > >
      > > > > > A spokesman for the NRA said it had "no comment" to make on Plan
      > > > > > Better's claim.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > According to the group, the Government agreed with the EU and
      > > > > > International Monetary Fund that no major road scheme would start in
      > > > > > 2012 or 2013. Yet EUR600 million had been allocated for new roads
      > > > in 2012
      > > > > > and another EUR260 million the following year.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > "With every kilometre of motorway removing 25 to 30 acres of land
      > > > from
      > > > > > agriculture, the road building authority gambles that a future
      > > > > > government can be browbeaten into building around 800km of motorway
      > > > > > after it has bought some 22,000 acres of land," said Plan Better.
      > > > > >
      > > > > > "The latest move in the NRA's landgrab is evident in Wexford where
      > > > steps
      > > > > > to purchase land have just been taken in the case of the New
      > > > > > Ross-Enniscorthy motorway/dual-carriageway project. More than
      > > > > > half-a-dozen other schemes are also being moved towards land
      > > > purchase."
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Plan Better said this was happening even though traffic levels on the
      > > > > > road network had fallen by 7 per cent over the past two years and the
      > > > > > NRA would have to pay EUR100 million to contractors for two toll
      > > > roads --
      > > > > > the M3 and Limerick tunnel -- due to low traffic.
      > > > > >
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