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  • amgiad
    koors its y gud ai diy tuu set ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy njuu sistymz...
    Message 1 of 25 , Jul 23, 2002
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      koors its y gud ai'diy tuu set ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu
      cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy njuu sistymz...
    • etaonsh
      ... ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu ... sistymz... Dhis grwp belongz 2 dhe enlytnd & 2 dhoz cking enlytnmnt. It iz a pleis ov experimente/n & lurning. Hopfuly
      Message 2 of 25 , Jul 23, 2002
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        --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
        <amgiad@y...> wrote:
        > koors its y gud ai'diy tuu set
        ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu
        > cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy njuu
        sistymz...
        Dhis grwp belongz 2 dhe enlytnd &
        2 dhoz cking enlytnmnt. It iz a
        pleis ov experimente/n & lurning.
        Hopfuly (but not compulsurily) we
        wil mwv gradualy 2wardz mutual
        rispect, harmony & understanding -
        purhaps evn cuming 2 sum kind ov
        sherd systm - my only systm iz 2
        baluns inoveshn widh
        intelijubility. I c u r uzing
        Celtic (Manx/Welsh) schwaz & (like
        me, bt incunsistntly?) 'w'z.
      • amgiad
        ... dhcts kuul.. cktxuyli ai dount juuz w cz /U/ oor /u:/.... dhy speliq cktxwyli iz probybli beist on mii mis-prynaunsiq ACTUALLY . cktxuuyli wud probybli
        Message 3 of 25 , Jul 24, 2002
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          --- In saunds2@y..., "etaonsh" <rcom@c...> wrote:
          > --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
          > <amgiad@y...> wrote:
          > > koors its y gud ai'diy tuu set
          > ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu
          > > cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy njuu
          > sistymz...
          > Dhis grwp belongz 2 dhe enlytnd &
          > 2 dhoz cking enlytnmnt. It iz a
          > pleis ov experimente/n & lurning.
          > Hopfuly (but not compulsurily) we
          > wil mwv gradualy 2wardz mutual
          > rispect, harmony & understanding -
          > purhaps evn cuming 2 sum kind ov
          > sherd systm - my only systm iz 2
          > baluns inoveshn widh
          > intelijubility. I c u r uzing
          > Celtic (Manx/Welsh) schwaz & (like
          > me, bt incunsistntly?) 'w'z.

          dhcts kuul.. cktxuyli ai dount juuz w cz /U/
          oor /u:/.... dhy speliq cktxwyli iz probybli
          beist on mii mis-prynaunsiq "ACTUALLY".
          cktxuuyli wud probybli oolsou bii posibyl.

          wai not spel "sistm" in'sted ov "systm"?
        • Xipirho
          Xoo iz! He he he! Ai kan rait laik dhis and nouwcn kan xtop mi!!! Ha ha ha ha! :-) Qpaat frqm etaonsh! ... Liv long and prospx, Khjpjrho (Xipirho)/Rxwlj
          Message 4 of 25 , Jul 24, 2002
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            Xoo iz! He he he! Ai kan rait laik dhis and nouwcn kan xtop mi!!! Ha ha ha
            ha! :-) Qpaat frqm etaonsh!

            On Tuesday, July 23, 2002, at 07:37 PM, amgiad wrote:

            > koors its y gud ai'diy tuu set ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid tuu
            > cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy njuu sistymz...
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          • etaonsh
            ... set ... tuu ... njuu ... enlytnd & ... a ... lurning. ... we ... understanding - ... ov ... 2 ... (like ... juuz w cz /U/ No, i ges u r uzing uu (which
            Message 5 of 25 , Jul 24, 2002
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              --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
              <amgiad@y...> wrote:
              > --- In saunds2@y..., "etaonsh"
              <rcom@c...> wrote:
              > > --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
              > > <amgiad@y...> wrote:
              > > > koors its y gud ai'diy tuu
              set
              > > ap y gruup dhcts dedikeitid
              tuu
              > > > cktxwyli raitiq widh dhy
              njuu
              > > sistymz...
              > > Dhis grwp belongz 2 dhe
              enlytnd &
              > > 2 dhoz cking enlytnmnt. It iz
              a
              > > pleis ov experimente/n &
              lurning.
              > > Hopfuly (but not compulsurily)
              we
              > > wil mwv gradualy 2wardz mutual
              > > rispect, harmony &
              understanding -
              > > purhaps evn cuming 2 sum kind
              ov
              > > sherd systm - my only systm iz
              2
              > > baluns inoveshn widh
              > > intelijubility. I c u r uzing
              > > Celtic (Manx/Welsh) schwaz &
              (like
              > > me, bt incunsistntly?) 'w'z.
              >
              > dhcts kuul.. cktxuyli ai dount
              juuz w cz /U/
              No, i ges u r uzing 'uu' (which iz
              clos 2 'w'). So wot duz yor 'w'
              stand 4 dhen?
              > oor /u:/.... dhy speliq cktxwyli
              iz probybli
              > beist on mii mis-prynaunsiq
              "ACTUALLY".
              > cktxuuyli wud probybli oolsou
              bii posibyl.
              Yor wrdz hav mor leterz dhan
              orthodox speling!
              >
              > wai not spel "sistm" in'sted ov
              "systm"?
              I du sumtymz, but
              1) I am trying 2 mwv GRADUALY &
              NATURALY awey from orthodox
              speling, and
              2) I am undisydid about wot valu 2
              giv 2 'y.' I am atractid by the
              idea ov foloing u & my Manx &
              Welsh forberz in making it the
              'schwa,' but, az u c hir, I lyk 2
              giv it the 'ai' & sumtymz evn uz
              it 4 the 'ee' saund in 'leek' (az
              in Frensh). Purhaps dhis undr-uzd
              letr cud cuvr several saundz
              widhaut 2 much cunfuzhn(?).
            • etaonsh
              ... laik dhis and nouwcn kan xtop mi!!! Ha ha ha ... Y wud I want 2 stop u? I dont realy undrstand yor x symbol, but udhrwyz I can c dhat u r uzing an atemt
              Message 6 of 25 , Jul 24, 2002
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                --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho
                <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                > Xoo iz! He he he! Ai kan rait
                laik dhis and nouwcn kan xtop
                mi!!! Ha ha ha
                > ha! :-) Qpaat frqm etaonsh!
                Y wud I want 2 stop u?
                I dont realy undrstand yor 'x'
                symbol, but udhrwyz I can c dhat u
                r uzing an atemt at riformd
                speling, & one which, 2 sm extent,
                hapnz 2 agri, sumwot, widh dhe
                rest ov us cuntributing so far.
                Dhe 'moduration,' & dhe rul agenst
                orthodox speling, iz az much a
                disiplin 4 mi az any1 els.
              • amgiad
                ... jey kam tuu thiqk ov it, w woz yridxinyli = uu/vv (ct dhis taim dher woz nou difryns bit wiin v cnd u) ... w stcndz foor /w/ in mai sistym... cz in
                Message 7 of 25 , Jul 25, 2002
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                  > No, i ges u r uzing 'uu' (which iz
                  > clos 2 'w'). So wot duz yor 'w'


                  jey kam tuu thiqk ov it, w woz yridxinyli
                  = uu/vv (ct dhis taim dher woz nou difryns bit'wiin
                  v cnd u)

                  > stand 4 dhen?

                  w stcndz foor /w/ in mai sistym...
                  cz in WOXIQGTYN (woshingtn), WOT,
                  WITX etc.

                  > > oor /u:/.... dhy speliq cktxwyli
                  > iz probybli
                  > > beist on mii mis-prynaunsiq
                  > "ACTUALLY".
                  > > cktxuuyli wud probybli oolsou
                  > bii posibyl.
                  > Yor wrdz hav mor leterz dhan
                  > orthodox speling!

                  hm, jes, dhis iz posibl - in sam keisiz.
                  ai thiqk wedhyr juu spel cktwyli, cktxuuyli
                  OOR cktxuyli daznt riyli mctyr. ai thiqk wii
                  hcv tuu get rid ov as matx ri'dandnt elymynts
                  cz posibyl. dherfoor, wai not spel POSIBL cnd
                  SISTM, liiviq aut dhy xwaa? SISTM definitli iz
                  xoortyr dhcn SYSTEM.

                  > >
                  > > wai not spel "sistm" in'sted ov
                  > "systm"?
                  > I du sumtymz, but
                  > 1) I am trying 2 mwv GRADUALY &
                  > NATURALY awey from orthodox
                  > speling, and

                  hm, ou'kei...

                  > 2) I am undisydid about wot valu 2
                  > giv 2 'y.' I am atractid by the
                  > idea ov foloing u & my Manx &
                  > Welsh forberz in making it the
                  > 'schwa,' but, az u c hir, I lyk 2
                  > giv it the 'ai' & sumtymz evn uz
                  > it 4 the 'ee' saund in 'leek' (az
                  > in Frensh). Purhaps dhis undr-uzd
                  > letr cud cuvr several saundz
                  > widhaut 2 much cunfuzhn(?).

                  wel, ai thiqk - ai wontid tuu sei dhis
                  eniwei - it kud ov koors kavyr /j/ (cz in
                  YES = jes) CND /aI/ widhaut matx kynfjuuzhn...
                  cnd it kud oolsou stcnd foor /@/ (xwaa), ai ges,
                  bi'koz /aI/ iz noormyli strest...

                  dhen ygen, wel, dhy point ov mai sistym iz
                  dhct juu kcn trcns'kraib fou'niimikyli widh it,
                  iivyn dhou dher aar daigrcfs...

                  /DIs Iz It/ = dhis iz it
                  /f@'netIks/ = fynetiks
                  /hI@r {nd De@/ = hiyr cnd dhey (hir cnd dher, hiir cnd dher)

                  niki
                • etaonsh
                  ... Pepl at larj r suspishs ov sistymz and izmz. We saundspelrz dont spyc mu
                  Message 8 of 25 , Jul 25, 2002
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                    --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad" <amgiad@y...> wrote:
                    >mai sistym
                    Pepl at larj r suspishs ov 'sistymz' and 'izmz.' We saundspelrz dont
                    spyc mu< ov 'dimocrasy,' and I notid dhe lac ov enthuziazm 4 polz
                    at 'Saundspel(1),' wi< cud b dher unduing.

                    Ri<d
                  • Xipirho
                    Eksqlqnt! Downt wurri - ay didnt miyn dhat yuw mayt wont tq modqreyt mi riyli! Dhi x woz put in tq meyk wunn sey it [Stop] (layk dhis duttx gay
                    Message 9 of 25 , Jul 25, 2002
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                      Eksqlqnt! Downt wurri - ay didnt miyn dhat yuw mayt wont tq modqreyt mi
                      riyli! Dhi "x" woz put in tq meyk wunn sey it [Stop] (layk dhis duttx gay
                      <wow, that's a great re-spelling!> in q {Grolsch} advqrt). Kompr'endow?
                      Beysikli dhis sistqm and WS aa fuli intqtx'eyndjqbql (witx is wird
                      kqns'idqring dhat dhis sistqm staatid of beyst qr'awnd truwspel!). Kan yu
                      riyd it? Ay advqkeyt q kuppql ov txeyndjiz tq WS - "j" as [Z], "a" as [a]
                      (as summ dayqlekts <dhi owldq wunnz> lack [V]), "q" as [@], "y" as [j],
                      and "uCC" or "c" as [V]. Meybi "c" kud bi xwaa and "q" [N] (dhen [V] as
                      "uCC"), butt ay faynd having "ng" as [N] simpler and "ngg" if you say the
                      "g". Uddhqwayz "think" iz "thiqk", and dhis is klummzi as [nk] duzznt
                      igzist in ingglix. Wot dq yu gayz (dheyr it iz qg'en! - sori fq biying sow
                      imqtx'ur!) think?


                      On Wednesday, July 24, 2002, at 10:15 PM, etaonsh wrote:

                      > --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho
                      > <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                      >> Xoo iz! He he he! Ai kan rait
                      > laik dhis and nouwcn kan xtop
                      > mi!!! Ha ha ha
                      >> ha! :-) Qpaat frqm etaonsh!
                      > Y wud I want 2 stop u?
                      > I dont realy undrstand yor 'x'
                      > symbol, but udhrwyz I can c dhat u
                      > r uzing an atemt at riformd
                      > speling, & one which, 2 sm extent,
                      > hapnz 2 agri, sumwot, widh dhe
                      > rest ov us cuntributing so far.
                      > Dhe 'moduration,' & dhe rul agenst
                      > orthodox speling, iz az much a
                      > disiplin 4 mi az any1 els.
                      >
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                    • 'etaonsh'
                      ... miyn dhat yuw mayt wont tq modqreyt mi I dont want 2 modur8 u - I wont 2 fyl dhat dhy axept buton iz jst a formality. Dhi x woz put in tq meyk wunn sey
                      Message 10 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                        --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho
                        <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                        > Eksqlqnt! Downt wurri - ay didnt
                        miyn dhat yuw mayt wont tq
                        modqreyt mi
                        I dont want 2 modur8 u - I wont 2
                        fyl dhat dhy 'axept' buton iz jst
                        a formality.
                        Dhi "x" woz put in tq meyk wunn
                        sey it [Stop] (layk dhis duttx gay
                        > <wow, that's a great
                        re-spelling!> in q {Grolsch}
                        advqrt). Kompr'endow?
                        He iznt gay, u kno(?). ;)
                        > Beysikli dhis sistqm and WS
                        /top! Dhe pepl arnt redy 4 a
                        'sistm' yet! giv us all a <ans 2
                        thro of dhe /aklz ov oldfa/nd
                        speling b4 a sistm EMURJIZ!
                        aa fuli intqtx'eyndjqbql (witx is
                        wird
                        > kqns'idqring dhat dhis sistqm
                        staatid of beyst qr'awnd
                        truwspel!). Kan yu
                        > riyd it?
                        Yes, jst abaut, bt dhat iznt 2 sey
                        I can c Jo Public taking 2 it wen
                        (/)he stumblz on2 hi! Wher iz u gyz' sens ov practicality, pragmatizm, and PR? (dhe 3 'Pz.').
                        Ay advqkeyt q kuppql ov txeyndjiz
                        tq WS - "j" as [Z], "a" as [a]
                        > (as summ dayqlekts <dhi owldq
                        wunnz> lack [V])
                        ?
                        , "q" as [@], "y" as [j],
                        > and "uCC" or "c" as [V]. Meybi
                        "c" kud bi xwaa and "q" [N] (dhen
                        [V] as
                        > "uCC"), butt ay faynd having
                        "ng" as [N] simpler and "ngg" if
                        you say the
                        > "g". Uddhqwayz "think" iz
                        "thiqk", and dhis is klummzi as
                        [nk] duzznt
                        > igzist in ingglix. Wot dq yu
                        gayz (dheyr it iz qg'en! - sori fq
                        biying sow
                        > imqtx'ur!) think?
                        Bit tecnicl, init, Jo(?). ;(
                      • amgiad
                        juu miin moust piipl dount laik speliqz laik oor ? wel. piipl aar syspixys yv txeindx in dxenyryl ai ges. wel. wai not kri eit y pol? ai
                        Message 11 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                          juu miin moust piipl dount laik speliqz laik
                          <sistmz> oor <sistymz>? wel. piipl aar syspixys
                          yv txeindx in dxenyryl ai ges.

                          wel. wai not kri'eit y pol?

                          ai thiqk wan ov dhy problymz widh trydixynyl speliq
                          iz dhct it iznt demy'krctik CT OOL.
                        • amgiad
                          wel, dhy fckt dhct TS iz = [geI] dxast couz hau mest ap dhis sistym iz. riisyntli aiv faund y sait bai pclystiniyn rcpyrz from izreil, cnd dhei spel
                          Message 12 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                            wel, dhy fckt dhct TS <gay> iz = [geI] dxast couz hau mest ap dhis
                            sistym iz. riisyntli aiv faund y sait bai pclystiniyn rcpyrz from
                            izreil, cnd dhei spel /gaI/ cz "gay" - foor obviys riiznz!

                            <ay> luks laik /aj/ /aI/ tuu moust piipl, intyrncxynyli spiikiq.
                            dhis raadhyr intryncxynyl vcljuu ov Y iz oolsou y bit ov y problym
                            wen it kamz tuu WS, bat eniwei... meibi ai xud kri'eit y simplifaid
                            vyyrzhyn ov WS, widhaut /3:/ cnd /@/. vyyrzhn wud dhen bii veerzhn
                            (ri'flektiq kokni prynansi'eixn), ybaut wud bii a'baut.

                            niki

                            PS aiv noutist dhat meni piipl - probybli moust piipl - siim tuu
                            pri'fyyr trydixynyl speliq. bat ai thiqk dhout ctitjuudz mei txeindx -
                            piipl txeindx - sam piipl mei aargjuu dhct hjuumyn bii-iqz aar
                            oolweiz kynsyyrvytiv cnd staf, bat ai thiqk juu kcn oolsou aargjuu
                            dhct piipl aar fond ov txeindx... it dxast di'pendz wer juur lukiq...
                          • amgiad
                            well, aiv menni diffrent sisstemz... inn fackt, enni ovv dhemm wudd probbebli bi better dhann tredisshenel spelling... etaonsh, diddent ai si yu bifòr
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                              well, aiv menni diffrent sisstemz... inn fackt,
                              enni ovv dhemm wudd probbebli bi better dhann
                              tredisshenel spelling...

                              etaonsh, diddent ai si yu bifòr summwer?
                            • etaonsh
                              ... speliqz laik ... Dhey wont lyk it at 1st. But whot wud b partcularly dificlt 2 sel 2 dhem, IMHO, wyd b spelingz whi
                              Message 14 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                                --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
                                <amgiad@y...> wrote:
                                > juu miin moust piipl dount laik
                                speliqz laik
                                > <sistmz> oor <sistymz>?
                                Dhey wont lyk it at 1st. But whot
                                wud b partcularly dificlt 2 sel 2
                                dhem, IMHO, wyd b spelingz whi<
                                tek yp MOR letrz.
                                wel. piipl aar syspixys
                                > yv txeindx in dxenyryl ai ges.
                                Trw.
                                >
                                > wel. wai not kri'eit y pol?
                                >
                                Wot on?
                                > ai thiqk wan ov dhy problymz
                                widh trydixynyl speliq
                                > iz dhct it iznt demy'krctik CT
                                OOL.
                                So lets lyrn from histyry. :)
                              • etaonsh
                                ... sisstemz... inn fackt, ... better dhann ... Betr dhan iz not riplesybl widh. ... summwer? ? Y all dhyz dubl letrz, am?
                                Message 15 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                                  --- In saunds2@y..., "amgiad"
                                  <amgiad@y...> wrote:
                                  > well, aiv menni diffrent
                                  sisstemz... inn fackt,
                                  > enni ovv dhemm wudd probbebli bi
                                  better dhann
                                  > tredisshenel spelling...
                                  'Betr dhan' iz not 'riplesybl
                                  widh.'
                                  >
                                  > etaonsh, diddent ai si yu bifòr
                                  summwer?
                                  ?
                                  Y all dhyz dubl letrz, am?
                                • amgiad
                                  well, iff wi intérprit /{/ azz short /a/ annd /A:/ azz long /aa/ - witch izz verri rizenebel wenn itt kummz tu Yorksher prenunsi- eysshen - dhenn wi havv tu
                                  Message 16 of 25 , Jul 26, 2002
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                                    well, iff wi intérprit /{/ azz short /a/
                                    annd /A:/ azz long /aa/ - witch izz verri
                                    rizenebel wenn itt kummz tu Yorksher prenunsi-
                                    eysshen - dhenn wi havv tu indikeyt dhiss summhau.

                                    etimelodjikli, dhiss wud olsou bi kereckt -
                                    dhi ounli probblem dhenn izz: hau du wi spell
                                    /V/? azz inn LUCK. lück? lük?
                                  • amgiad
                                    wel. ay think if wier gouing tu follou dhe duch moddel, wi nied les letterz. widh dhe swidish moddel, wi wud probbebli nied moor.
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                                      wel. ay think if wier gouing
                                      tu follou dhe duch moddel, wi
                                      nied les letterz.

                                      widh dhe swidish moddel, wi wud
                                      probbebli nied moor.
                                    • Xipirho
                                      Either uCC (which i think is really easy) or c ic denc. ... Liv long and prospx, Khjpjrho (Xipirho)/Rxwlj (Roly).
                                      Message 18 of 25 , Jul 27, 2002
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                                        Either "uCC" (which i think is really easy) or "c" ic denc.

                                        On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 11:18 PM, amgiad wrote:

                                        > well, iff wi intérprit /{/ azz short /a/
                                        > annd /A:/ azz long /aa/ - witch izz verri
                                        > rizenebel wenn itt kummz tu Yorksher prenunsi-
                                        > eysshen - dhenn wi havv tu indikeyt dhiss summhau.
                                        >
                                        > etimelodjikli, dhiss wud olsou bi kereckt -
                                        > dhi ounli probblem dhenn izz: hau du wi spell
                                        > /V/? azz inn LUCK. lück? lük?
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                                      • Xipirho
                                        Ey? Way du wi hav tq folow eni modql? Duttx iz haadli lodjikql iz it? Pliyz ekspleyn wot dhiyz sistqmz aa layk - c poynt mi tu q sayt widh infow. Thanks. A? Wi
                                        Message 19 of 25 , Jul 27, 2002
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                                          Ey? Way du wi hav tq folow eni modql? Duttx iz haadli lodjikql iz it?
                                          Pliyz ekspleyn wot dhiyz sistqmz aa layk - c poynt mi tu q sayt widh infow.
                                          Thanks.

                                          A? Wi du we hav tq folo eny modql? Duttx iz haadly lodjikql iz it? Pleez
                                          eksplaen wot dheez sistqmz aa liek - aw poynt me tu q siet widh info.
                                          Thanks.


                                          On Friday, July 26, 2002, at 11:21 PM, amgiad wrote:

                                          > wel. ay think if wier gouing
                                          > tu follou dhe duch moddel, wi
                                          > nied les letterz.
                                          >
                                          > widh dhe swidish moddel, wi wud
                                          > probbebli nied moor.
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                                        • amgiad
                                          ... well yea olrayt, but if ay wont tu yuuz U foor /U/, tu? ov kors, wi kud jüst yuuz U foor ool thri sawndz: /u:/ /U/ and /V/. aafter ool, sum aksnts downt
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                                            > Either "uCC" (which i think is really easy) or "c" ic denc.


                                            well yea olrayt, but if ay wont tu yuuz U foor /U/, tu?
                                            ov kors, wi kud jüst yuuz U foor ool thri sawndz: /u:/ /U/
                                            and /V/. aafter ool, sum aksnts downt hav /V/ eniwey.

                                            if wi wont tu inkluud dayekrittiks, ay think ü foor /V/ (= e
                                            sentrelayzd vawel) and ë foor /@/ ( = oolsow e sentrelayzd vauwel)
                                            wud bi fayn. it wud oolsow bi possibel tu yuz ë foor bowth.

                                            on dhi üdher hand, it wud oolsow bi possibel tu kiip dhe spelling
                                            striktli etimelodjikel, wel, büt wi kud dhen stil kiip dhe ü
                                            (simmiler tu u, in fakt, jüst u widh e dayerrezis) and ë (e widh e
                                            dayerrezis). werd wud dhen bi wërd, weerd wud olsow bi possibel.

                                            ov koors, if wi yuuz dhe ü wi downt rili niid dhe folowing düb(b)el
                                            konsenent enni longer... wot du yu gayz think ebaut spellingz layk
                                            shuhd? du yu think shuhd, put iz better dhan shud, püt?
                                          • amgiad
                                            duch spelling iz kwayt lodjikel: a) in frünt ov sevverel konsenents oor wün faynel konsenent yuul oolweyz faynd e historrikeli short konsenent e.g. dapper
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                                              duch spelling iz kwayt lodjikel:

                                              a) in frünt ov sevverel konsenents oor wün faynel konsenent yuul
                                              oolweyz faynd e historrikeli short konsenent

                                              e.g. dapper /dAp@r/

                                              b) in frünt ov wün konsenent yuul oolweyz faynd e historikeli long
                                              konsenent:

                                              e.g. maken /mak@/

                                              c) if wün ov dhe historikeli long konsenent shud epiir in frünt ov
                                              sevverel konsenents, dhe konsenent iz dübbeld.

                                              e.g. taal /tal/

                                              d) iksepshnz: süm lattin werdz, and inglish werdz ov koors!

                                              dhis iz beysikli dhe sistm ay yuuz nau, widh moor oor les inglish
                                              sawnd valyuuz (paartly, in eni keys). sum historrikeli long konsenents
                                              aar speld widh e daygraf in duch, in dhouz keysiz (e.g. oe = /u/)
                                              dhouz ruulz du not eplay.
                                            • Xipirho
                                              ... Wel, yued hav u faw [U], uCC faw [V], and uu / uw / ue faw [u:] - {¿ comprendes?} ... Dhis iz wie iev yuezd uCC - bikoz foek hue doent hav [V],
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                                                On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 06:30 PM, amgiad wrote:

                                                > --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                                                >> Either "uCC" (which i think is really easy) or "c" ic denc.
                                                >
                                                >
                                                > well yea olrayt, but if ay wont tu yuuz U foor /U/, tu?
                                                > ov kors, wi kud jüst yuuz U foor ool thri sawndz: /u:/ /U/
                                                > and /V/.

                                                Wel, yued hav "u" faw [U], "uCC" faw [V], and "uu"/"uw"/"ue" faw [u:] - {¿
                                                comprendes?}

                                                > aafter ool, sum aksnts downt hav /V/ eniwey.

                                                Dhis iz wie iev yuezd "uCC" - bikoz foek hue doent hav [V], kan simply ign'
                                                aw dhq dubbql konsqnqnt, butt ie ges dhae kud taek "c" as [U] insted.

                                                >
                                                > if wi wont tu inkluud dayekrittiks, ay think ü foor /V/ (= e
                                                > sentrelayzd vawel) and ë foor /@/ ( = oolsow e sentrelayzd vauwel)
                                                > wud bi fayn. it wud oolsow bi possibel tu yuz ë foor bowth.

                                                Qm...yeh...oekae, its posqbql {ic gesq} (i guess).

                                                >
                                                > on dhi üdher hand, it wud oolsow bi possibel tu kiip dhe spelling
                                                > striktli etimelodjikel, wel, büt wi kud dhen stil kiip dhe ü
                                                > (simmiler tu u, in fakt, jüst u widh e dayerrezis) and ë (e widh e
                                                > dayerrezis). werd wud dhen bi wërd, weerd wud olsow bi possibel.

                                                Yeh - ie wunndqd qb'owt weerd mieself, butt ie doent think xwaa iz reely
                                                "long e" if enithing iz.

                                                >
                                                > ov koors, if wi yuuz dhe ü wi downt rili niid dhe folowing düb(b)el
                                                > konsenent enni longer...

                                                Wel dqr!

                                                > wot du yu gayz think ebaut spellingz layk
                                                > shuhd? du yu think shuhd, put iz better dhan shud, püt?

                                                Ie think "uh" iz instqntly rekqn'iezqbql as [U], butt...wel it duzznt
                                                reely matq.

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                                              • Xipirho
                                                Soe yue kan riet duttx pqrfektly if yue kan speek it and noe dheez ruelz...? Aar dheez ruelz fownd in Ingglix awlredy? ... Liv long and prospx, Khjpjrho
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                                                  Soe yue kan riet duttx pqrfektly if yue kan speek it and noe dheez
                                                  ruelz...? Aar dheez ruelz fownd in Ingglix awlredy?

                                                  On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 06:38 PM, amgiad wrote:

                                                  > duch spelling iz kwayt lodjikel:
                                                  >
                                                  > a) in frünt ov sevverel konsenents oor wün faynel konsenent yuul
                                                  > oolweyz faynd e historrikeli short konsenent
                                                  >
                                                  > e.g. dapper /dAp@r/
                                                  >
                                                  > b) in frünt ov wün konsenent yuul oolweyz faynd e historikeli long
                                                  > konsenent:
                                                  >
                                                  > e.g. maken /mak@/
                                                  >
                                                  > c) if wün ov dhe historikeli long konsenent shud epiir in frünt ov
                                                  > sevverel konsenents, dhe konsenent iz dübbeld.
                                                  >
                                                  > e.g. taal /tal/
                                                  >
                                                  > d) iksepshnz: süm lattin werdz, and inglish werdz ov koors!
                                                  >
                                                  > dhis iz beysikli dhe sistm ay yuuz nau, widh moor oor les inglish
                                                  > sawnd valyuuz (paartly, in eni keys). sum historrikeli long konsenents
                                                  > aar speld widh e daygraf in duch, in dhouz keysiz (e.g. oe = /u/)
                                                  > dhouz ruulz du not eplay.
                                                  >
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                                                • amgiad
                                                  ... yes, dhiiz ruulz aar oolsow preznt in inglish, büt az yu seertenli now, dher aar oolsow lots ov üdher ruulz in inglish... az ay sed, düch iznt OOLWEYZ
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                                                    --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                                                    > Soe yue kan riet duttx pqrfektly if yue kan speek it and noe dheez
                                                    > ruelz...? Aar dheez ruelz fownd in Ingglix awlredy?
                                                    >


                                                    yes, dhiiz ruulz aar oolsow preznt in inglish, büt az
                                                    yu seertenli now, dher aar oolsow lots ov üdher ruulz in inglish...

                                                    az ay sed, düch iznt OOLWEYZ folowing dhiiz ruulz, bikoz ov
                                                    lattin and inglish weerdz, and süm üdher etimelodjikel spellingz,
                                                    büt in jennerel, düch spelling iz kwayt kensistnt.
                                                  • amgiad
                                                    ... [u:] - {¿ ... yes, in yuur sistem, büt not in ji-spel! ... simply ign ... insted. wel. may ji-spel wonts tu bi layk middel inglish, sow uCC wil hav
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                                                      --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > On Sunday, July 28, 2002, at 06:30 PM, amgiad wrote:
                                                      >
                                                      > > --- In saunds2@y..., Xipirho <xipirho@r...> wrote:
                                                      > >> Either "uCC" (which i think is really easy) or "c" ic denc.
                                                      > >
                                                      > >
                                                      > > well yea olrayt, but if ay wont tu yuuz U foor /U/, tu?
                                                      > > ov kors, wi kud jüst yuuz U foor ool thri sawndz: /u:/ /U/
                                                      > > and /V/.
                                                      >
                                                      > Wel, yued hav "u" faw [U], "uCC" faw [V], and "uu"/"uw"/"ue" faw
                                                      [u:] - {¿
                                                      > comprendes?}

                                                      yes, in yuur sistem, büt not in ji-spel!

                                                      >
                                                      > > aafter ool, sum aksnts downt hav /V/ eniwey.
                                                      >
                                                      > Dhis iz wie iev yuezd "uCC" - bikoz foek hue doent hav [V], kan
                                                      simply ign'
                                                      > aw dhq dubbql konsqnqnt, butt ie ges dhae kud taek "c" as [U]
                                                      insted.

                                                      wel. may ji-spel wonts tu bi layk middel inglish, sow uCC
                                                      wil hav /U-/, uC wil hav /u:/


                                                      > > on dhi üdher hand, it wud oolsow bi possibel tu kiip dhe spelling
                                                      > > striktli etimelodjikel, wel, büt wi kud dhen stil kiip dhe ü
                                                      > > (simmiler tu u, in fakt, jüst u widh e dayerrezis) and ë (e widh e
                                                      > > dayerrezis). werd wud dhen bi wërd, weerd wud olsow bi possibel.
                                                      >
                                                      > Yeh - ie wunndqd qb'owt weerd mieself, butt ie doent think xwaa iz
                                                      reely
                                                      > "long e" if enithing iz.

                                                      wel, büt dhe dayerresis nevver standz for length...
                                                      oolsow historikkeli. ¨ woz eridjineli yuuzd tuu indikeit
                                                      sepperet prenünsieyshen ov vawelz. in oolbeynien, ë standz for
                                                      shwa. (¨ in jermen normeli kümz from e former e, ae > ä)


                                                      > > wot du yu gayz think ebaut spellingz layk
                                                      > > shuhd? du yu think shuhd, put iz better dhan shud, püt?
                                                      >
                                                      > Ie think "uh" iz instqntly rekqn'iezqbql as [U], butt...wel it
                                                      duzznt
                                                      > reely matq.


                                                      wel, yea, in e wey...
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