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  • dan_zeitlin
    Sean, I posted photos of a local Helms 25. The album is named Helms 25 Rigging. It s entirely conventional s I orioginally described. No extension plates.
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      Sean,
      I posted photos of a local Helms 25. The album is named "Helms 25 Rigging."
      It's entirely conventional s I orioginally described. No extension plates. You will need to check your shroud lengths to see if that plate is needed or not to preserve the rigging you have.
      Regards,
      Dan

      --- In sailnethelms@yahoogroups.com, Dan Z <dan_zeitlin@...> wrote:
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      > Sean,
      > I just work up and remembered that there's a 25 just a few boats away from mine.  I'll take some photos this morning.
      > Regards,
      > Dan
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      > Dan Zeitlin,  Annapolis, Maryland                       http://danzee.org
      > Check out the illustrations of Lou Marchetti at http://loumarchetti.com
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      > --- On Mon, 8/1/11, Sean Reid <sean.reid@...> wrote:
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      > From: Sean Reid <sean.reid@...>
      > Subject: Re: I think i missed something
      > To: "dan_zeitlin@..." <dan_zeitlin@...>
      > Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 10:17 PM
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      > I will send to David
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      > Sent from my HTC on the Now Network from Sprint!
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      > From: "Dan Z" <dan_zeitlin@...>
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      > Date: Mon, Aug 1, 2011 9:29 pm
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      > Subject: I think i missed something
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      > To: "Sean Reid" <sean.reid@...>
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      > Cc: "jumaggafanny@..." <jumaggafanny@...>
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      > Oh, that does make a difference.  The 24 is a keelboat, the 25 is trailerable.  I'm sure the funny plate is meant to easlily fold over when the mast is taken down.  I'll bet all the 25's have them.  I just heard from
      > David Applegate.  He's a 25 expert, having rebuilt and modifed his to the hilt.  Let's see what eh says.  He's much better to advise you on thet model than I am.
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      > To bad he didn';t see our private meail traffic.  Oh well, you get to interrogate him afresh :-)
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      > Dan Zeitlin,  Annapolis, Maryland                      
      > http://danzee.org
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      > Check out the illustrations of Lou Marchetti at
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      > --- On Mon, 8/1/11, Sean Reid <sean.reid@...> wrote:
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      > From: Sean Reid <sean.reid@...>
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      > Subject: RE: I think i missed something
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      > To: "Dan Z" <dan_zeitlin@...>
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      > Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 9:21 PM
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      > Thanks Dan  BTW mine is a 25’ not 24’ but thanks for your help
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      > Sean Reid
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      > From: Dan Z [mailto:dan_zeitlin@...]
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      > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:14 PM
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      > To: Sean Reid
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      > Subject: RE: I think i missed something
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      > Sean,
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      > If you are an integratin guy, you know there is often more than one way to put a working system together.  Jack changed things from time to time.  He also re-invented stuff.  That was Jack being Jack. 
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      > Either toggles at the ends of the turnbuckles or those things you have will work.  If you are trying to preserve the original rigging, it will matter since the lengths would probably be different.  I suggest you attach the shrouds and stays to the mast.  Then
      > erect the mast using lines to hold it up while you see how the stays are going to line up.  The halyards usually work pretty well.  That way you can measure how long the turnbuclkles etc have to be.
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      > I will try to look at local 24 in the next day or two and see how it's rigged.  No guarantess it's the same though. 
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      > Dan Zeitlin,  Annapolis, Maryland                      
      > http://danzee.org
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      > Check out the illustrations of Lou Marchetti at
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      > --- On Mon, 8/1/11, Sean Reid <sean.reid@...> wrote:
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      > From: Sean Reid <sean.reid@...>
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      > Subject: RE: I think i missed something
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      > To: "Dan Z" <dan_zeitlin@...>
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      > Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 9:06 PM
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      > Unfortunately I do not have all of the parts.  I had 4 complete turnbuckles and 2 missing the center and far end.  I really need to find a shop
      > that will rig the mast with me and provide the parts I need
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      > Sean Reid
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      > From: Dan Z [mailto:dan_zeitlin@...]
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      > Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 9:05 PM
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      > To: Sean Reid
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      > Subject: Re: I think i missed something
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      > Back to this part.  It looks like a plate that the turnbuckle fork attaches directly to with a pin through the hole.  Therefor I assume that the shroud has a turnbuckle attached and that the turnbuckle
      > has only a fork and no toggle at the free end.  RIght?
      > Dan Zeitlin,  Annapolis, Maryland                      
      > http://danzee.org
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      > Check out the illustrations of Lou Marchetti at
      > http://loumarchetti.com
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      > --- On Mon, 8/1/11, Sean Reid <sean.reid@...> wrote:
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      > From: Sean Reid <sean.reid@...>
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      > Subject: I think i missed something
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      > To: "dan_zeitlin@..." <dan_zeitlin@...>
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      > Date: Monday, August 1, 2011, 8:35 PM
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      > My ubolts are solid,  this is the piece I was asking about
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