- So what you are saying is that the new version of the horoscope or

soul of the world is inacurate according to the 72 names of god which

solomon developed? and that they should be assigned as quarinaries

and not decans? I still don't understand how the three rays come from

that then? Also any ideas of how the seven planets might figure into

the equation of it all? if indeed they are ratios of some type?

i am saying its old, and its two names per decan. maybe its "one by day, one

by night" or maybe its half of the decan to one, half to the other.

as for the cosmology given by the author of the key of solomon, i know,

roughly, "jack-doodley-squat" about that. no idea, never seen it. the

numbers look familiar, which is why i suggested the rays might correpond to

decans...i dunno, man: you tell me.

the planets in my tarot deck follow the "chaldean order", given so well in a

long post about the decans by nagasiva inna post on oct 8 (octave?!). as i

said, they form a pentagram around the wheel (7x5), the exception being mars

appearing 6 times (shoulda been the sun, no?): doubled up on the last dec.

pisces and the first of aires.

if you start the pentagram, then, on the 10 of cups, itll be mars over 4x

suns, the sun over 4 venii (?), etc. however, if you start on the two of

wands, all five points of the star point to the same planet. you can go

around the circle until you get to 20-20 degree pisces, at which point it

becomes the "counterchanged" one at top, four below thingie described above. - --- In sacredlandscapelist@yahoogroups.com, "Keith" <Keith@i...>

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> So what you are saying is that the new version of the horoscope or

> soul of the world is inacurate according to the 72 names of god

> solomon developed? and that they should be assigned as quarinaries

from

> and not decans? I still don't understand how the three rays come

> that then? Also any ideas of how the seven planets might figure into

day, one

> the equation of it all? if indeed they are ratios of some type?

>

>

> i am saying its old, and its two names per decan. maybe its "one by

> by night" or maybe its half of the decan to one, half to the other.

know,

>

> as for the cosmology given by the author of the key of solomon, i

> roughly, "jack-doodley-squat" about that. no idea, never seen it.

the

> numbers look familiar, which is why i suggested the rays might

correpond to

> decans...i dunno, man: you tell me.

well in a

>

> the planets in my tarot deck follow the "chaldean order", given so

> long post about the decans by nagasiva inna post on oct 8

(octave?!). as i

> said, they form a pentagram around the wheel (7x5), the exception

being mars

> appearing 6 times (shoulda been the sun, no?): doubled up on the

last dec.

> pisces and the first of aires.

over 4x

>

> if you start the pentagram, then, on the 10 of cups, itll be mars

> suns, the sun over 4 venii (?), etc. however, if you start on the

two of

> wands, all five points of the star point to the same planet. you

can go

> around the circle until you get to 20-20 degree pisces, at which

point it

> becomes the "counterchanged" one at top, four below thingie

described above.

Hey Keith,

Thanks for your post, it's all good stuff!

Since you gave me the tertragram of addition im am slowly peiceing

things together, i think lol! ok I found a text on an old egyptian

papyrus where it states that " the first seven, the other 12 gives

you 19 or 7+12=19 where 1+9=1 (the unity) "

I think this refers to the 12 signs of the zodiac and/or the elements

which i now believe come from the 12 banners of tetragrammaton as

given by you, where you have the twelve permutations of 4 numbers.

and the other seven relating directly to the planets but more

importantly relating to the tetractys of mulitplication which has

seven points.

This seems to be confirmed by a passage i read the other day where

Pythagoras says" the tetractys based on mulitplication of odd and

even no's united in unity, the sum of which is 27. This together with

the teractys of addition (1+2+3+4=10) symbolizes the musical,

geometric and arithmetic ratios upon which this universe is based"

Might we be getting somewhere? Ok so we have the tetractys of

addition making the 12 signs and or elements which when you permutate

them look like this:

1234:

1=1

12=3

123=6

1234=10

1243:

1=1

12=3

124=7

1243=10

1342:

1=1

13=4

134=8

1342=10

2341:

2=2

23=5

234=9

2341=10

This would be the first 4 etc etc when you do all of them giving you

the twelve banners or signs. Now if you look at a banner and remove

the arbitrary addition you see:

1234:

1=1 (where 2 is 1 more than 1)

2=3 (where 3 is one more than 2)

3=6 (where 6 is 3 more than 3)

4=10 (where 10 is 6 more than 4)

The first being equal to the second by the first procession of number

as the second being equal the the third by the second procession of

number as described by agrippa. These ratios seem to form a mirror of

themselves totaling 8. Maybe its from these that you get the 72 names

of god? or the three rays looking at it from a mathematical viewpoint!

Im not sure ......any ideas Keith?

One thing is for sure if you handle the tetractys of multiplication

in the same fashion as that of addition and permutate them as above

you will get a total of 24.....perhaps thrones of wisdom? and from

them perhaps the three rays?

I would like to hear what you think!

Kindest regards ,

Martin. - hello all,

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