Re: [OrientalRug] Hereke Silk - Buying is an art too
- and people like you are not artist of that art.
You say in one of your previous post that you bought some rugs at
touristic costal cities in Turkey. No problem here, you can do if you
want to pay some more from little to much more.
But you do not have the right to complain about being cheated.
You want to be sure if the rug is real Hereke or not? The only way of
knowing that is to buy the rug from the source [weaving source.]
Have you spent a little effort to visit a Hereke silk weaving area and
buy a rug(s) there by seeing the rug/s in person? Haven't you ever
thought of that the simplest answer to buy a true Hereke in the
source? No, no, no. But you lazy as* shopped only at the places where
you have spent your holidays. Why have you done these? Because you
have been cheated first by those so-called rug scholers who have
adviced you to shop at big rug shops, from so-called rug
authorities (wealthy dealers.) Why ? Because them rug scholars have
been working with them. Have they ever adviced you you to go to a
weaver area for a safe (true rug) purchase? No. So, you (buyers and
scholars) are cheating each others.
I am a consultant (in international trade and res.&dev.) for industry
sector, and rarely sell rugs on the net because I live among weavers.
At international trade, buyers well know that the best is to contact
manufacturers directly. Sometimes, they pay them a little more than
they could pay a trader. But they do want to do business with the
manufacturer because they know the art of buying. In this rug field,
people from scholars to wholebuyers to retail buyers do not know the
art of buying. Then, when they get cheated they often accuse others.
Comparing manufacturing in the industry and rug field; most of hereke
silk manufacturers are weavers themselves weaving at homes. So, it
must be more fun and safe to do business with these manufacturers - to
buy from these artists direct. Instead, with people like you and those
so-called rug scholars, this rug field which is one of
interesting/beauty/workmanship is being killed. If you do not
appreciate the things/efforts spent for creating the beauty, you
deserve to get cheated. Everybody in this field can be accused in
killing this field. The only ones who cannot be accused are the
weavers. This is sure.
Well, I have 2 silk rugs now http://www.halikilimci.com
But my price for people like you are more than I currently want.
You chose - Get cheated or Pay more.
By the way, Hereke town is no more a major weaving source - There are
many towns/villages in Turkey where weavers weave at homse. So, all
info given in this thread is either biased or wrong unintentionally.
You have a lot to learn , even simple things such as the surest way of
buying a true Hereke is to buy it from the source direct. Do you have
the time to leave those touristic coastal towns if you do not want to
get cheated? Or, actually, you are cheating yourself?
I hope you got the experience now after my words.
> > On 6/20/2002 at 2:38 PM Bauer-Unternehmensberatung@t...many
> > OrientalRug@y... wrote:
> > >It ist so - but also double knot - and the dealers dón´t say in
> > casesand
> > >"woven in China" !! - And if you later come back to the dealer
> > >protest of the wrong quality - you can get the answer : Excuseme - but I
> > >don´t know it myself - I bought it as a Hereke - so we togethermake a
> > >mistake and you don´t get your money back ! - That´s myexperience !
> > -
> > >So you get experience .
> > >
> > >with kind regards,
> > >yours Ingo Bauer