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  • Michael Hall
    ah... so geotourism is sustainable tourism then .... what a complete pile of bollocks, reinvention of the wheel and waste of time (with thanks to National
    Message 1 of 2 , Nov 19, 2011
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      ah... so geotourism is sustainable tourism then .... what a complete pile of bollocks, reinvention of the wheel and waste of time (with thanks to National Geographic)

      cheers
      michael

      ___________________________________________
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      Department of Management, College of Business & Economics, University of Canterbury, Private Bag 4800, Christchurch, New Zealand 8140
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      • Co-editor, Current Issues in Tourism: http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/13683500.asp
      • Book Review Editor, Journal of Sustainable Tourism: www.tandfonline.com/JOST
      • Co-editor, Aspects of Tourism book series: http://www.multilingual-matters.com/
      • Associate Editor for Asia and the Pacific, Tourism Geographies: http://www.geog.nau.edu/tg/ ; http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/rtxg
      • Editor, Contemporary Geographies of Leisure, Tourism and Mobility book series: http://www.routledge.com/
      • Co-editor, Routledge Critical Studies in Tourism, Business and Management: http://www.routledge.com/
      • Docent, Department of Geography, University of Oulu, Finland www.oulu.fi/geography/
      • Visiting Professor, Linnaeus University School of Business and Economics, Kalmar, Sweden http://www.bbs.hik.se/eng/
      • Visiting Professor, Sheffield Business School, Sheffield Hallam University, UK www.shu.ac.uk/faculties/om/
      • Visiting Professor, School of Tourism and Hospitality Management, Southern Cross University, Australia http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/tourism/index.php



      -----Original Message-----
      From: TourismGeography@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Alan A. Lew
      Sent: Sun 11/20/2011 10:38 AM
      To: RTSnet; IGU Tourism
      Subject: [IGUST] Making "Geotourism" less about Geology and more about Geography

      Last week a declaration was passed by the International Congress of
      Geotourism to promote the word "geotourism" as being a reference more to
      geography and sustainability than just geology...

      *... What emerged from the Congress was the Arouca
      Declaration<http://http//www.csdimpact.org/content_detail.php?uid=csd0F55705171F7C1A88>,
      written by attending European geopark leaders and delivered November 12,
      2011 by Margarida Belém, president of the Arouca Geopark Board of
      Directors. In part it says, "We recognize that there is a need to clarify
      the concept of geotourism. We therefore believe that geotourism should be
      defined as tourism which sustains and enhances the identity of a territory,
      taking into consideration its geology, environment, culture, aesthetics,
      heritage and the well-being of its residents. Geological tourism is one of
      the multiple components of geotourism."*

      Quote Source:
      http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2011/11/16/unesco%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cgeoparks%E2%80%9D-embrace-geotourism/

      The declaration itself is fairly short:

      Download: Declaração de
      Arouca<http://www.geoparquearouca.com/download.php?ficheiro=Li9kb2N1bWVudG9zL2ZpY2hlaXJvc19hbmV4b3MvRGVjbGFyYWNhb19Bcm91Y2FfW1BUXV8xN2RjMzQzNGRhZWM5ZWJjNmM5YTNlNmI5OWNhMjA2Ni5wZGY=>
      Download: Arouca
      declaration<http://www.geoparquearouca.com/download.php?ficheiro=Li9kb2N1bWVudG9zL2ZpY2hlaXJvc19hbmV4b3MvRGVjbGFyYXRpb25fQXJvdWNhX1tFTl1fMTdkYzM0MzRkYWVjOWViYzZjOWEzZTZiOTljYTIwNjYucGRm>

      Cheers
      Alan

      *Alan A. Lew* <http://alanlew.com/>*, Ph.D., AICP*
      Professor and Graduate Program Coordinator
      Department of Geography, Planning and Recreation <http://nau.edu/gpr>
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, Arizona 86011-5016, USA
      *********************************************
      *Publications*
      * *Tourism Geographies <http://tgjournal.com/>* - journal Editor-in-Chief
      * *World Regional Geography: Mobilities, Destinations &
      Sustainability<http://www.wrgeography.com/>
      *
      * *Understanding & Managing Tourism
      Impacts*<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415771337/>
      * My open access articles <http://www.geog.nau.edu/publications/index.html>
      + GScholar <http://bit.ly/vvfljL>
      ***********************************************
      *IGU Tourism Conferences <http://tinyurl.com/IGUTourConf>*
      * Sustainable Tourism in Urban Environments, 20-22 April 2012, Hong Kong
      * Tourism Commission Pre-Congress
      Meeting<http://www.leisure-tourism-geography.de/igu-symposium-2012.html>,
      22-25 August 2012, Trier/Mosel, Germany
      * International Geographical Union Congress, Tourism Commission
      Sessions<http://bit.ly/rfRNHs>,
      26-30 August 2012, Koln, Germany
      * Coastal, Island and Tropical Tourism<http://geog.nau.edu/igust/sabah2013/>,
      March 2013 (tentative), Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia
      * Emerging Landscapes and Frontiers in Tourism
      Research<http://geog.nau.edu/igust/china2013/>,
      25-27 July 2013, Kanas N.P., Xinjiang, China
      *********************************************
      * Alan A. Lew on Twitter <http://twitter.com/alew>
      * TG Tourism Place <http://tourismplace.blogspot.com/> blog
      * NAU GPR on Facebook <http://bit.ly/GPR-FB> -- and on
      Twitter<http://twitter.com/NAUGPR>
      <http://twitter.com/NAUGPR>* Online GPR Studies <http://nau.edu/gprweb>
      *********************************************
      "A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." Lao-Tzu
      *********************************************


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    • Jim Macbeth
      Ah, Michael, you are sounding naïve. This is about territory, academics carving out territory and geology just lost out to geography, physical geography I
      Message 2 of 2 , Nov 20, 2011
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        Re: [rtsnet] RE: [IGUST] Making "Geotourism" less about Geology and more about Geography Ah, Michael, you are sounding naïve.  This is about territory, academics carving out territory and geology just lost out to geography, physical geography I assume.  

        I have to say that the focus on sustaining a territory is getting closer to a value that says what is important is not sustaining tourism but how tourism can be an active part of sustaining the social, the economic, the cultural and the environment.

        But, in carving out territory, Geotourism is falling into the traps of all the other ‘tourisms’ in thinking that by dividing into ever smaller disciplinary groupings, we create a better and more useful scholarship.  Tourism has at least been one of those areas where disciplines come together to work at solving problems but are we inexorably going down the discipline path?  Yes, certain pressures in universities do lead this way.

        The world has problems and universities have disciplines.  This is a phrase often used in the forums of interdisciplinarity and transdisciplinarity and in the international group forming INIT, the International Network for Interdisciplinarity and Transdisciplinarity.

        Tourism needs to be careful to retain its problem-solving and opportunity creating ability by not going down the discipline route, not letting discipline perspectives barricade themselves into little bunkers.  This time geology lost the skirmish.

        Cheers, Jim



        Jim Macbeth, PhD                              
        Associate Professor in Tourism
        School of Social Sciences and Humanities
        Faculty of Arts, Education and Creative Media
         

        Rm SS2.010
        Murdoch University, South Street, MURDOCH, Western Australia 6150               
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        From: Michael Hall <michael.hall@...>
        Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 10:59:17 +1300
        To: "Alan A. Lew" <alan.lew@...>, RTSnet <rtsnet@yahoogroups.com>, IGU Tourism <tourismgeography@yahoogroups.com>
        Subject: [rtsnet] RE: [IGUST] Making "Geotourism" less about Geology and more about Geography

         
         
         
           

        ah... so geotourism is sustainable tourism then .... what a complete pile of bollocks, reinvention of the wheel and waste of time (with thanks to National Geographic)

        cheers
        michael

        ___________________________________________
        Professor C. Michael Hall, PhD.
        Department of Management, College of Business & Economics, University of Canterbury, Private Bag 4800, Christchurch, New Zealand 8140
        http://http://www.mang.canterbury.ac.nz/people/hall.shtml
        e mail: michael.hall@... <mailto:michael.hall%40canterbury.ac.nz>
        Department: +64 3 364 2606
        personal mobile (urgent only please): 021 2701009
        Pod Number KF02, Desk Q

        http://canterbury-nz.academia.edu/CMichaelHall

         Co-editor, Current Issues in Tourism: http://www.tandf.co.uk/journals/13683500.asp
         Book Review Editor, Journal of Sustainable Tourism: www.tandfonline.com/JOST
         Co-editor, Aspects of Tourism book series: http://www.multilingual-matters.com/
         Associate Editor for Asia and the Pacific, Tourism Geographies: http://www.geog.nau.edu/tg/ ; http://mc.manuscriptcentral.com/rtxg
         Editor, Contemporary Geographies of Leisure, Tourism and Mobility book series: http://www.routledge.com/
         Co-editor, Routledge Critical Studies in Tourism, Business and Management: http://www.routledge.com/
         Docent, Department of Geography, University of Oulu, Finland www.oulu.fi/geography/
         Visiting Professor, Linnaeus University School of Business and Economics, Kalmar, Sweden http://www.bbs.hik.se/eng/
         Visiting Professor, Sheffield Business School, Sheffield Hallam University, UK www.shu.ac.uk/faculties/om/
         Visiting Professor, School of Tourism and Hospitality Management, Southern Cross University, Australia http://www.scu.edu.au/schools/tourism/index.php

        -----Original Message-----
        From: TourismGeography@yahoogroups.com <mailto:TourismGeography%40yahoogroups.com>  on behalf of Alan A. Lew
        Sent: Sun 11/20/2011 10:38 AM
        To: RTSnet; IGU Tourism
        Subject: [IGUST] Making "Geotourism" less about Geology and more about Geography
         
         Last week a declaration was passed by the International Congress of
        Geotourism to promote the word "geotourism" as being a reference more to
        geography and sustainability than just geology...

        *... What emerged from the Congress was the Arouca
        Declaration<http://http//www.csdimpact.org/content_detail.php?uid=csd0F55705171F7C1A88>,
        written by attending European geopark leaders and delivered November 12,
        2011 by Margarida Belém, president of the Arouca Geopark Board of
        Directors. In part it says, "We recognize that there is a need to clarify
        the concept of geotourism. We therefore believe that geotourism should be
        defined as tourism which sustains and enhances the identity of a territory,
        taking into consideration its geology, environment, culture, aesthetics,
        heritage and the well-being of its residents. Geological tourism is one of
        the multiple components of geotourism."*

        Quote Source:
        http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2011/11/16/unesco%E2%80%99s-%E2%80%9Cgeoparks%E2%80%9D-embrace-geotourism/

        The declaration itself is fairly short:

        Download: Declaração de
        Arouca<http://www.geoparquearouca.com/download.php?ficheiro=Li9kb2N1bWVudG9zL2ZpY2hlaXJvc19hbmV4b3MvRGVjbGFyYWNhb19Bcm91Y2FfW1BUXV8xN2RjMzQzNGRhZWM5ZWJjNmM5YTNlNmI5OWNhMjA2Ni5wZGY=>
        Download: Arouca
        declaration<http://www.geoparquearouca.com/download.php?ficheiro=Li9kb2N1bWVudG9zL2ZpY2hlaXJvc19hbmV4b3MvRGVjbGFyYXRpb25fQXJvdWNhX1tFTl1fMTdkYzM0MzRkYWVjOWViYzZjOWEzZTZiOTljYTIwNjYucGRm>

        Cheers
        Alan

        *Alan A. Lew* <http://alanlew.com/>*, Ph.D., AICP*
        Professor and Graduate Program Coordinator
        Department of Geography, Planning and Recreation <http://nau.edu/gpr>
        Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff, Arizona 86011-5016, USA
        *********************************************
        *Publications*
        * *Tourism Geographies <http://tgjournal.com/>* - journal Editor-in-Chief
        * *World Regional Geography: Mobilities, Destinations &
        Sustainability<http://www.wrgeography.com/>
        *
        * *Understanding & Managing Tourism
        Impacts*<http://www.routledge.com/books/details/9780415771337/>
        * My open access articles <http://www.geog.nau.edu/publications/index.html>
         + GScholar <http://bit.ly/vvfljL>
        ***********************************************
        *IGU Tourism Conferences <http://tinyurl.com/IGUTourConf>*
        * Sustainable Tourism in Urban Environments, 20-22 April 2012, Hong Kong
        * Tourism Commission Pre-Congress
        Meeting<http://www.leisure-tourism-geography.de/igu-symposium-2012.html>,
        22-25 August 2012, Trier/Mosel, Germany
        * International Geographical Union Congress, Tourism Commission
        Sessions<http://bit.ly/rfRNHs>,
        26-30 August 2012, Koln, Germany
        * Coastal, Island and Tropical Tourism<http://geog.nau.edu/igust/sabah2013/>,
        March 2013 (tentative), Kota Kinabalu, Sabah, Malaysia
        * Emerging Landscapes and Frontiers in Tourism
        Research<http://geog.nau.edu/igust/china2013/>,
        25-27 July 2013, Kanas N.P., Xinjiang, China
        *********************************************
        * Alan A. Lew on Twitter <http://twitter.com/alew>
        * TG Tourism Place <http://tourismplace.blogspot.com/> blog
        * NAU GPR on Facebook <http://bit.ly/GPR-FB> -- and on
        Twitter<http://twitter.com/NAUGPR>
         <http://twitter.com/NAUGPR>* Online GPR Studies <http://nau.edu/gprweb>
        *********************************************
        "A good traveler has no fixed plans and is not intent on arriving." Lao-Tzu
         *********************************************

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