RE: [rootsradicals] Re: mounting lights, locking up
I suppose V-racks and Freeloaders are at risk for theft…I am thinking that they might be less of a target though just as a regular rack is not such a target. In all my years of Chicago riding I have never had a rear rack stolen and have not heard much about rack theft in gerenal. But the BD does generate attention so who knows what a thief might think upon site of such a fine rig.
One of the members of another on-line bike forum tested Sheldon's 'wheel-only' theory and proved it to be very faulty. He locked up his bike via that method, then cut through the tire, tire bead, and rim in about 10 seconds with a standard hacksaw. The lock slipped through the cut in the rim and he walked away with the entire bike.
Granted, the rear wheel was toast, but I will never again use that method.
The video hides somewhere on FixedGearGallery. I don't recall the poster or the thread, however.
In Indy, I usually self-lock my BD with a u-lock around the down tube and front wheel. I'm on the Northside and in the North Suburbs, so I think I'm fairly safe. Not many hardened bike thieves up here.
When I visit Chicago, I don't take the BD because I don't have a satisfactory way to secure it, the V-racks, and the Freeloaders . . .
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Travers, Neil" <Neil.Travers@...> wrote:
>On Behalf Of lizwdurham
> I don't have an Xtracyle (I'm a wannnabe, not an owner), but ...
> 1. I thought most people did it the other way round, U on back, cable on
> 2. http://www.sheldonbrown.com/lock-strategy.html
> Sheldon points out you only need to get the wheel (inside the rear
> triangle) not the wheel and frame. This might be easier? But if you're
> struggling with a cable lock on the rear, perhaps not :(
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> 2 questions:
> 1- So my rear light bracket is not large enough for mounting on the
> rack. I checked the bracket for my son's light nad my husband's...thye
> are also too small. All are different Planet Bike lights. THe racks are
> a bit larger than a typical rack. What lights do most folks use? Or do
> you put them solmewhere other than the rack?
> 2- I have always locked my regular bikes with a cable through the back
> wheel attching to u-lock that goes through the front. I live in Chicago
> where bike theft is common. With the freeloader bags, it isn't as easy
> to access the back wheel. How do most folks lock up?
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- Thanks Tone. I get the idea. Looks like your lock is one of those standard brass ones.
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Tone" <tone@...> wrote:
> You are in luck, somewhat that is. I managed to find some photos ¡§of¡¨
> the mini lock I used on my old Xtracycled bike¡¦s rear quick release. I
> say somewhat because the original subject matter in the photos is focused
> on some of the FreeRadical frame failures I had. I sent variations of
> these photos to Xtracycle to initiate the guarantee & replacement of the
> PLEASE NOTE: To everyone viewing the photos you MUST understand I have
> been considered a heavy duty user and abuser of my Xtracycle. I worked as
> a full time cargo bike messenger in NYC, but most of the stresses I
> really put on the Xtracycle were from personal use while hauling
> heavy/bulky loads, as you might have seen in photos I have posted links
> to. From what I have been told by the awesome folks at Xtracycle, at the
> time of my FreeRadical failure(s) there had only been two other
> ¡§people¡¨ with broken frames¡K those tested by Xtracycle and those
> belonging to the ¡§Riding the Spine¡¨ crew. According to my
> understanding, the Spine guys did/do bike touring & camping trips on
> remote rough mountain jungle terrain from the Southern tip of South
> America all the way to Alaska. Clearly Riding the Spine are extreme users
> as well. Also from what I know, around the time of my second FreeRadical
> replacement Xtracycle had already implemented reinforcement to the
> joint-area prone to cracks in the production run of FreeRadicals at that
> time. Therefore any prospective Xtracycle buyers should not worry
> themselves about purchasing a FreeRadical. Besides, in all my dealings
> with the Xtracycle folks they have been more than accommodating with the
> utmost customer service and response in their guarantees and
> replacements. If I lived on the West Coast I get the vibe I would be
> hanging with them!
> With that being said I will get on with the photos, which unfortunately
> were all taken after dark due to coming home from working as a messenger
> all day.
> This is a photo taken with out the FreeLoaders from the perspective of
> being just above the right end of the Rear Step.
> You can see main body of the mini lock, which is the brass rectangular
> shape behind/beneath the left drop-out. The U-bolt of the lock is barely
> visible to the left of the top edge of the hub. However, the metal part
> of the bolt is hidden within the black rubber tube/hose I mentioned
> earlier, which is used to prevent rattling and scratches.
> This is basically the same photo except it is without using a flash, so
> there are slightly less harsh shadows cast, but I did have to manipulate
> the image to make it easier to read:
> This photo was taken with the FreeLoaders on between the rear post of the
> left V-Rack and the tire:
> It is particularly difficult to make out the lock in this photo because
> the only light is coming from the flash. The rubber-hosed U-bolt of the
> lock is the black triangle above the quick release ¡§nut¡¨, while the
> black slender rectangle extending below it is the lock body.
> This photo was taken from the gear side of the FreeRadical looking
> through the wheels:
> Here we have part of the quick release lever visible almost along the
> right edge and above the middle of the image. You can see how it has been
> locked at almost a 45 degree angle to the ground or FreeRadical tubing
> below it. Just to the left of the QR lever you can once again see the
> black rubber tube padding the U-bolt of the mini lock. It is a bit
> difficult to tell apart from the gray of the supposedly ¡§black¡¨ color
> of my carbon-fiber Aerospokes, which have lightened in color from fading
> over time and the build-up of dirt, grit, and exhaust.
> The final photo I have is a close up from just below the quick release:
> Unfortunately the flash blinds most of the lock, but you can definitely
> see the QR nut, part of its lever, the lock body, and a section of the
> U-bolt without rubber tubing on it.
> I hope these photos were at least somewhat useful. º
> Ride safe and secure,