Re: Driven to Despair a cool PBS Special
- --- In email@example.com, MH <hoagy@...> wrote:
>if the vehicle is heavier than the load, i propose that it's inefficient almost by definition.
> > The main trick is that we've got to quit wasting fuel, carting around
> > 200 lbs of people, or 200 lbs of people + 100 lbs of cargo, in 1 or 2
> > tons of inefficient vehicle.
> Come on. A gasoline car isn't that bad is it? Oops! Just looked
> in my notes and there 1-2 percent efficient with one ill informed
> person in there. Not particularly good. The human powered bicycle
> looks pretty good till someone compares the price of kcal's and BTU's.
> Anyone want to tackle that? I'd also like to see it compared to the
> electric bike. Maybe I'm asking to much, sorry. -Mark H.
one analysis: http://www.ebikes.ca/sustainability/Ebike_Energy.pdf
another less rigorous: http://clevercycles.com/?p=122
a well-cited paean: http://clevercycles.com/energy_and_equity/#degofs
- Hi EmilyI tried to reply to your personal email to me, but it bounced as your IP blocked it...so here's my responce:I am aware of Michael Pollan's work, and have explored a lot of similar ideas.
As a Permaculture gardener/designer/assistant teacher, I know the very best knowledge/wisdom lies with the remnants of indigenous cultures, and Permaculture's attempts to revive that knowledge. That our local indigenous people (Maori) are very interested in Permaculture, is a joy! As David Holmgren says (as one of the co-orignators of Permaculture) "all we're trying to do is get people back in touch with that peasant groundedness, that 'common sense' about how to live sustainably in place", and pass it on to future generations of all life in good condition!Horses will be part of the future mix for transport systems, as will oxen as seen in the Peak Oil doco "The Power Of Community"http://www.powerofcommunity.org/cm/index.php .....and of course bicycles, especially Xtracycles!I passed on some articles to a friend (see the links below) and he completely freaked out. He's now really keen it get his garden really firing, make sure his bicycles are functional, and I'm working on him to get involved with our local Transition Town group...community is the only real "solution"...we'll have pull togeather to survive.RegardsTedNelson, New Zealandhttp://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=a7AhRhE4NJlM&refer=home
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