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  • MH
    As for the gas shortage thing I know I m luckier then most but I ve reduced my gasoline costs to $25 or less a month. I m doing my best to get to one less car
    Message 1 of 13 , Oct 1, 2008
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      As for the gas shortage thing I know I'm luckier then most but
      I've reduced my gasoline costs to $25 or less a month. I'm doing
      my best to get to one less car status. -Mark H.

      Morgan wrote:
      > Yep, we're in the thick of it. Lots of gas stations have their pumps bagged up.
      > Check out this video from Atlanta of gas lines there (taken from a bicycle!):
      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U01djSaI9c
      >
      > Anyway, this has definitely raised awareness here for people thinking about alternatives.
      > A good thing IMHO.
      >
      > But, soon the shortages will be over, and it will be just business-as-usual, until
      > the next time.
    • Mark Garvey
      I went to the gas station today because I have been riding my motorcycle more than my bike lately. My motorcycle took 1.6 gallons of gas, and I had driven it
      Message 2 of 13 , Oct 1, 2008
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        I went to the gas station today because I have been riding my motorcycle more than my bike lately.  My motorcycle took 1.6 gallons of gas, and I had driven it 175 miles more or less in the last two weeks.  (the bike only about 50 miles....sigh...)

        mark

        On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 3:19 PM, MH <hoagy@...> wrote:
        As for the gas shortage thing I know I'm luckier then most but
        I've reduced my gasoline costs to $25 or less a month. I'm doing
        my best to get to one less car status.  -Mark H.

        Morgan wrote:
        > Yep, we're in the thick of it.  Lots of gas stations have their pumps bagged up.
        > Check out this video from Atlanta of gas lines there (taken from a bicycle!):
        > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U01djSaI9c
        >
        > Anyway, this has definitely raised awareness here for people thinking about alternatives.
        > A good thing IMHO.
        >
        > But, soon the shortages will be over, and it will be just business-as-usual, until
        > the next time.


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      • MH
        I use to ride my motorcycles a LOT but the last time I broke my collarbone in 92 I gave it up. I bruised a few ribs on my MTB but no injury s on my
        Message 3 of 13 , Oct 1, 2008
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          I use to ride my motorcycles a LOT but the last time I broke
          my collarbone in 92' I gave it up. I bruised a few ribs on my
          MTB but no injury's on my recumbents. Living in a small city would
          eliminate my need to own internal combustion engine devices and
          leave it to others to operate. One place I looked at has got a
          lovely city block park across the street from the eight floor
          apartment complex with outdoor bicycle parking in back. Right now
          I'm putting on less than 200 miles a month at 44 mpg. Not as good
          as your motorbike but I suppose you can carry four bags of groceries
          home on yours. One on either side of the backrest and one in each
          saddlebag. Thats pretty darn nice. I'd like my S.U.B to carry
          home canned goods by the case loads and stimulate some interest in
          my community with those cool looking bikes you all ride. -Mark H.

          I wonder how Anne Littlebird is doing? She must be pretty
          busy with her music and work. Anne are you there?

          Mark Garvey wrote:
          > I went to the gas station today because I have been riding my motorcycle
          > more than my bike lately. My motorcycle took 1.6 gallons of gas, and I had
          > driven it 175 miles more or less in the last two weeks. (the bike only
          > about 50 miles....sigh...)
        • MH
          I was just thinking there maybe one less car on my part but I ll have six bicycles. Still at 35 pounds apiece they weigh less than a motorbike I think. That
          Message 4 of 13 , Oct 2, 2008
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            I was just thinking there maybe one less car on my part but I'll have
            six bicycles. Still at 35 pounds apiece they weigh less than a
            motorbike I think. That must be my alter ego working. I'll still
            be putting carbon in the air via Grayhound bus travel two or three
            times a year and some city bus commutes. -Mark H.

            Mark Garvey wrote:
            > I went to the gas station today because I have been riding my motorcycle
            > more than my bike lately. My motorcycle took 1.6 gallons of gas, and I had
            > driven it 175 miles more or less in the last two weeks. (the bike only
            > about 50 miles....sigh...)

            >MH wrote:
            >> As for the gas shortage thing I know I'm luckier then most but
            >> I've reduced my gasoline costs to $25 or less a month. I'm doing
            >> my best to get to one less car status. -Mark H.
          • Philip Chase
            ... pumps bagged up. ... thinking about alternatives. ... business-as-usual, until ... And if you don t idle your engine you can t run your A/C. Life is hard
            Message 5 of 13 , Oct 2, 2008
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              --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Morgan" <mcgurme@...> wrote:
              >
              > Yep, we're in the thick of it. Lots of gas stations have their
              pumps bagged up.
              > Check out this video from Atlanta of gas lines there (taken from a
              bicycle!):
              > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0U01djSaI9c
              >
              > Anyway, this has definitely raised awareness here for people
              thinking about alternatives.
              > A good thing IMHO.
              >
              > But, soon the shortages will be over, and it will be just
              business-as-usual, until
              > the next time.
              >
              > Morgan
              >

              And if you don't idle your engine you can't run your A/C. Life is
              hard for the box bound.

              I have put so much mileage on my bike recently that I didn't believe
              my odometer at first, but I did the math and it's right. I think I
              drove my car to work once--maybe twice--since school started in
              August. You really rack up the mileage when you don't use the car.

              I think it's time to ditch the parking sticker at work. :-)

              Philip
            • j.a. tackett
              be thankful you are not celiac...........wheat,barley and rye are in everything out there...... i also have to stay away from cows milk and cheese..........so
              Message 6 of 13 , Oct 2, 2008
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                be thankful you are not celiac...........wheat,barley and rye are in everything out there......
                i also have to stay away from cows milk and cheese..........so planning to take for food on trips takes a bit of planning .................

                --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Dane Buson <Zuvembi@...> wrote:
                From: Dane Buson <Zuvembi@...>
                Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] OT:MealPack
                To: "rootsradicals rootsradicals" <rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com>
                Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:17 AM

                On Sep 30, Devian Gilbert tripped the electrons lexically so:

                >
                > today a buddy shared part of his food bar
                >
                > http://www.mealpack .com/
                >
                > its awesome!  and not too expensive.
                >
                > my last trip, i was eating snickers bars.
                > a 48pk at Smart & Final is about $22
                > 280cal each bar... (but of course its candy)
                >
                > seems like the Meal Pack is better nutrition, and not too terribly expensiv e.

                I went and looked at the site, and it looked interesting. Until I
                noticed that the first or second ingredient for every one was milk.
                Since I'm a Lactard, I'll just have to stick with Clif bars or
                PBJ/bananas/ etc.

                Bummer.

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                Dane Buson - Buson@unixbigots. org
                "Yeah, she's beautiful, but you can't find her IQ with a flashlight."
                -from "The Greatest American Hero"

              • JJ Ark
                Yeah, I didn t wanna say anything, but I know how you feel. To top it off, Soy makes me fall asleep. As in: boom, I am asleep. Never figured out what that was
                Message 7 of 13 , Oct 2, 2008
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                  Yeah, I didn't wanna say anything, but I know how you feel. To top it off, Soy makes me fall asleep. As in: boom, I am asleep. Never figured out what that was about.

                  Try making some home-made granola. Cheap, very very easy, and provides EXCELLENT energy for the long rides.

                  Nuts, dried fruit, some honey, oats. Its what we bring along. I think we use this recipe:

                  and it works out very very well. 

                  We tend to buy our stuff for this at Trader Joes cuz we they have a great list of foods that do not contain gluten. 

                  The other thing we try to do is bring along a few apples, some cheese and  some nuts. Put it in the freebie insulated lunch sacks that come with coolers or at events. If the apple is cold as well as the cheese, both will stay chilled for hours. Its small, relatively light, and fits in either the panniers of the shortbikes or it stows VERY easily in the longbike. Use your knife from your repair kit (I also carry my leatherman.) 

                  I am rigging a tiny basket for the front of my bike that I will be using to hold a cup of coffee and a small tupperware of nuts. I need to get going on that project before it gets too cold -- nothing like a nice cuppa joe to warm your fingers on the morning ride.

                  JJ
                  who isn't a celiac, but is married to one and is the father of two.


                  On Oct 2, 2008, at 4:47 AM, j.a. tackett wrote:


                  be thankful you are not celiac...... .....wheat, barley and rye are in everything out there......
                  i also have to stay away from cows milk and cheese...... ....so planning to take for food on trips takes a bit of planning ............ .....

                  --- On Wed, 10/1/08, Dane Buson <Zuvembi@unixbigots. org> wrote:
                  From: Dane Buson <Zuvembi@unixbigots. org>
                  Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] OT:MealPack
                  To: "rootsradicals rootsradicals" <rootsradicals@ yahoogroups. com>
                  Date: Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 11:17 AM

                  On Sep 30, Devian Gilbert tripped the electrons lexically so:

                  > 
                  > today a buddy shared part of his food bar
                  > 
                  > http://www.mealpack .com/
                  > 
                  > its awesome!  and not too expensive.
                  > 
                  > my last trip, i was eating snickers bars.
                  > a 48pk at Smart & Final is about $22
                  > 280cal each bar... (but of course its candy)
                  > 
                  > seems like the Meal Pack is better nutrition, and not too terribly expensiv e.

                  I went and looked at the site, and it looked interesting. Until I
                  noticed that the first or second ingredient for every one was milk.
                  Since I'm a Lactard, I'll just have to stick with Clif bars or
                  PBJ/bananas/ etc.

                  Bummer.

                  -- 
                  Dane Buson - Buson@unixbigots. org
                  "Yeah, she's beautiful, but you can't find her IQ with a flashlight."
                  -from "The Greatest American Hero"



                  JJ Ark

                  "We used to say if a frog had side pockets, he'd carry a handgun." - Dan Rather, Election Night, 2004

                • Mark Garvey
                  ... Nah! on my motorcycle, I can get two, maybe 3, bags in the milk crate on the rear seat so I don t like shopping on the bicycle unless I KNOW that I am not
                  Message 8 of 13 , Oct 2, 2008
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                    On Wed, Oct 1, 2008 at 11:56 PM, MH <hoagy@...> wrote:
                    Not as good
                    as your motorbike but I suppose you can carry four bags of groceries
                    home on yours.  One on either side of the backrest and one in each
                    saddlebag. 

                    Nah!  on my motorcycle, I can get two, maybe 3, bags in the milk crate on the rear seat so I don't like shopping on the bicycle unless I KNOW that I am not going to have a lot to get.  today I DID take it, i got 3 bottles of tonic water, a bottle of Gin, 2 limes (guess what I am doing with THAT stuff!!!  RIGHT!) and some sour cream for SWMBO.  If I am going for "real" I take the SUB.  MUCH easier to load groceries on that than the MC.  This is the contrast.  the motorcycle is a bit faster, and does not really use much gas, (Last tankful was 109 mpg)  and insurance is like $35 a year.  OK, that is fine, but the bicycle has more cargo room and it is easier to simply USE.  I prefer to commute on my bicycle if I can.  But who can say...I STILL have to fix the fuel pump on my little car!

                    mark

                    I wonder how Anne Littlebird is doing?  She must be pretty
                    busy with her music and work.  Anne are you there?

                    Mark Garvey wrote:
                    > I went to the gas station today because I have been riding my motorcycle
                    > more than my bike lately.  My motorcycle took 1.6 gallons of gas, and I had
                    > driven it 175 miles more or less in the last two weeks.  (the bike only
                    > about 50 miles....sigh...)



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