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  • wildehandyman01
    I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It is supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed bike. I was wondering if
    Message 1 of 13 , Sep 20, 2008
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      I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It is
      supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed bike.
      I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good method of using it
      with my x. I am thinking of replacing the factory hitch/drawbar with
      the one that the Carry Freedom bamboo trailer uses. Any input would be
      appreciated. Thank you in advance.
      Peace and Blessings,
      John
    • Mark Garvey
      I have a piece of pierced angle steel that I got from a True Value Store that is bolted with U bolts to the bridge at the back of the X. to this I have bolted
      Message 2 of 13 , Sep 20, 2008
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        I have a piece of pierced angle steel that I got from a True Value Store that is bolted with U bolts to the bridge at the back of the X.  to this I have bolted the hitch for my Grand daughter's child carrier and the hitch for my small cargo trailer.  I don't know if I have a photo, but I can certainly take one!

        The angle is pierced with several holes both round and oval and is intended for workshop projects.  I cut it about 4 or 5 inches long and used two small (just the right size to fit) U bolts that fit around the bridge and snugged it up using a piece of inner tube as a cushion.  with a little fiddling you can get the hitch to work by bolting it to the angle through one of the holes.

        mark

        On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, wildehandyman01 <johnwilde@...> wrote:
        I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It is
        supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed bike.
        I was wondering if  anyone could recommend a good method of using it
        with my x. I am thinking of replacing the factory hitch/drawbar with
        the one that the Carry Freedom bamboo trailer uses. Any input would be
        appreciated. Thank you in advance.
        Peace and Blessings,
        John


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      • Devin Quince
        It will fit fine in the corner of the X. I will try and get a picture up in the next day or so. I used mine to haul 10 lbs of apples and 6 1/2 gallons of milk
        Message 3 of 13 , Sep 20, 2008
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          It will fit fine in the corner of the X. I will try and get a picture up in the next day or so. I used mine to haul 10 lbs of apples and 6 1/2 gallons of milk in glass bottles w/o issue!

          On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, wildehandyman01 <johnwilde@...> wrote:

          I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It is
          supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed bike.
          I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good method of using it
          with my x. I am thinking of replacing the factory hitch/drawbar with
          the one that the Carry Freedom bamboo trailer uses. Any input would be
          appreciated. Thank you in advance.
          Peace and Blessings,
          John




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        • crazylven
          I use the alternative hitch shown on this page: http://www.burleygear.com/category_s/25.htm I messed with the
          Message 4 of 13 , Sep 21, 2008
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            I use the alternative hitch shown on this page:

            http://www.burleygear.com/category_s/25.htm

            I messed with the classic plastic hitch for a while, but this solution works better for us since we use the trailer with three different bikes now.

            The one negative to pulling the trailer is that the hitch/trailer tongue has caused some wear on the freeloader.

            -Crazy

          • Mike Showalter
            I too would love to see a photo of how you attached the burley to the X...when you get a chance. ms ... this I ... hitch ... intended ... two small ... snugged
            Message 5 of 13 , Jan 18, 2009
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              I too would love to see a photo of how you attached the burley to the
              X...when you get a chance.
              ms
              --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Mark Garvey" <lazybee45@...> wrote:
              >
              > I have a piece of pierced angle steel that I got from a True Value Store
              > that is bolted with U bolts to the bridge at the back of the X. to
              this I
              > have bolted the hitch for my Grand daughter's child carrier and the
              hitch
              > for my small cargo trailer. I don't know if I have a photo, but I can
              > certainly take one!
              >
              > The angle is pierced with several holes both round and oval and is
              intended
              > for workshop projects. I cut it about 4 or 5 inches long and used
              two small
              > (just the right size to fit) U bolts that fit around the bridge and
              snugged
              > it up using a piece of inner tube as a cushion. with a little
              fiddling you
              > can get the hitch to work by bolting it to the angle through one of the
              > holes.
              >
              > mark
              >
              > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:15 PM, wildehandyman01 <
              > johnwilde@...> wrote:
              >
              > > I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It is
              > > supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed bike.
              > > I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good method of using it
              > > with my x. I am thinking of replacing the factory hitch/drawbar with
              > > the one that the Carry Freedom bamboo trailer uses. Any input would be
              > > appreciated. Thank you in advance.
              > > Peace and Blessings,
              > > John
              > >
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            • David Chase
              Easiest is to use the alternate, available from Burley (surprisingly expensive) skewer attachment. See this picture
              Message 6 of 13 , Jan 18, 2009
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                Easiest is to use the alternate, available from Burley (surprisingly
                expensive) skewer attachment.

                See this picture

                http://gallery.me.com/dr2chase#100060/IMG_2761&bgcolor=black

                and the ones that follow for closeups. I sold the trailer, this was
                just a demo for someone local who had the exact same question.


                On 2009-01-18, at 11:22 AM, Mike Showalter wrote:
                > I too would love to see a photo of how you attached the burley to the
                > X...when you get a chance.
                > ms
              • crazylven
                Took a while for me to get the camera out. Here are pictures of my burley and a closeup of the hitch.
                Message 7 of 13 , Feb 1, 2009
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                  Took a while for me to get the camera out. Here are pictures of my burley and a closeup of the hitch.

                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/507335337/pic/788997120/view?picmode=&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=8&count=7&dir=asc 
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/507335337/pic/1193340650/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=8&dir=asc 
                  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/507335337/pic/568735236/view?picmode=medium&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=8&dir=asc 

                  --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Showalter" <mikeytheshow@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I too would love to see a photo of how you attached the burley to the
                  > X...when you get a chance.
                  > ms

                • watrout
                  ... ... is ... bike. ... be ... I use a Chariot not a Burley, but the Burley hitch that uses a ball & socket (not the type that wedges in the
                  Message 8 of 13 , Feb 2, 2009
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                    --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "wildehandyman01"
                    <johnwilde@...>
                    wrote:
                    >
                    > I was at a yard sale today and bought a Burley flatbed trailer. It
                    is
                    > supposed to attach to the left chainstay & seatstay on a non xed
                    bike.
                    > I was wondering if anyone could recommend a good method of using it
                    > with my x. I am thinking of replacing the factory hitch/drawbar with
                    > the one that the Carry Freedom bamboo trailer uses. Any input would
                    be
                    > appreciated. Thank you in advance.
                    > Peace and Blessings,
                    > John
                    >
                    I use a Chariot not a Burley, but the Burley hitch that uses a ball &
                    socket (not the type that wedges in the rear trangle) is very similar
                    to the one on the Chariot. Anyway, I just went to the hardware
                    store,
                    got a long threaded rod (I think mine was about 8" long). The
                    diameter
                    of the rod should be the largest that will still fit through the hole
                    on the hitch receiver. I also picked up 2 self-locking nuts and 2
                    rod
                    collars (this was the only tricky part but I just brought my X into
                    the
                    store so I could make sure the collar fit inside the back/bottom tube
                    of the X), and lastly some large washers (larger than the X's
                    tubing).
                    Slide the rod through the back tube, put the collars on (I kept mine
                    as
                    far apart as possible), slide the washers on, then slide the hitch
                    receiver on the left side, then the nuts on both sides. Tighten nuts
                    until everything is snug but loose enough that the hitch can still
                    rotate a little. The nice thing about this setup is it doesn't come
                    into contact with the freeloaders and there is NO turning penalty
                    (you
                    can't bind the bike with the trailer like on a regular bike setup).
                    The only disadvantage is it makes the rig pretty long (but it's
                    pretty
                    long already so it's really not that noticable). I suppose the
                    weight
                    of the rod w/ collars could be a disadvantage too, but if your riding
                    an X I'm guessing you're not counting grams!

                    I don't have any closeups of the hitch but here are a few pictures of
                    the whole rig. If someone wants to see closeups of the hitch let me
                    know and I can go snap a few.

                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                    /1
                    321871744/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

                    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                    /8
                    61386888/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                  • watrout
                    ... Sorry, my links didn t work - 2nd try - If these don t work just look at my album Wes X Pic1
                    Message 9 of 13 , Feb 2, 2009
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                      > I use a Chariot not a Burley, but the Burley hitch that uses a ball &
                      > socket (not the type that wedges in the rear trangle) is very similar
                      > to the one on the Chariot. Anyway, I just went to the hardware
                      > store,
                      > got a long threaded rod (I think mine was about 8" long). The
                      > diameter
                      > of the rod should be the largest that will still fit through the hole
                      > on the hitch receiver. I also picked up 2 self-locking nuts and 2
                      > rod
                      > collars (this was the only tricky part but I just brought my X into
                      > the
                      > store so I could make sure the collar fit inside the back/bottom tube
                      > of the X), and lastly some large washers (larger than the X's
                      > tubing).
                      > Slide the rod through the back tube, put the collars on (I kept mine
                      > as
                      > far apart as possible), slide the washers on, then slide the hitch
                      > receiver on the left side, then the nuts on both sides. Tighten nuts
                      > until everything is snug but loose enough that the hitch can still
                      > rotate a little. The nice thing about this setup is it doesn't come
                      > into contact with the freeloaders and there is NO turning penalty
                      > (you
                      > can't bind the bike with the trailer like on a regular bike setup).
                      > The only disadvantage is it makes the rig pretty long (but it's
                      > pretty
                      > long already so it's really not that noticable). I suppose the
                      > weight
                      > of the rod w/ collars could be a disadvantage too, but if your riding
                      > an X I'm guessing you're not counting grams!
                      >
                      > I don't have any closeups of the hitch but here are a few pictures of
                      > the whole rig. If someone wants to see closeups of the hitch let me
                      > know and I can go snap a few.
                      >
                      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                      > /1
                      > 321871744/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                      >
                      > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                      > /8
                      > 61386888/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                      >

                      Sorry, my links didn't work - 2nd try - If these don't work just look at my album "Wes' X"


                      Pic1 

                      Pic2 

                       

                    • Geoff Cisler
                      I personally would love to see some more pictures. I m planning on using my chariot, once i finish up my bike build, and would be interested in seeing more
                      Message 10 of 13 , Feb 3, 2009
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                        I personally would love to see some more pictures. I'm planning on
                        using my chariot, once i finish up my bike build, and would be
                        interested in seeing more specifics. and I got kind of lost in the
                        verbal description, but it is 7am right now...

                        geoff
                        jamaica plain, ma

                        > Sorry, my links didn't work - 2nd try - If these don't work just look at
                        > my album "Wes' X"
                        >
                        >
                        > Pic1
                        >
                        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/\
                        861386888/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc>
                        >
                        > Pic2
                        >
                        <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/\
                        1321871744/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc>
                        >
                        >
                      • watrout
                        Geoff, Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Finally got the camera out and snapped some pics of my hitch design. Again, if any of the links don t work
                        Message 11 of 13 , Feb 15, 2009
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                          Geoff,

                          Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Finally got the camera out
                          and snapped some pics of my hitch design. Again, if any of the links
                          don't work just look for Wes' X on the photos page (there are also
                          some additional pictures of the hitch there that I didn't link to in
                          this post).

                          Here's a view of the hitch installed:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                          /910409929/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

                          Note the rear fender placement in this picture if you're planning on
                          hooking up a trailer - it's rotated much lower than most people do
                          but you have to have it that low to keep the road muck of your little
                          one. I actually added that reflective triangle mainly to serve as a
                          mud flap extension.

                          Here's what the hitch setup looks like removed:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                          /1374329296/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

                          Here's a closeup of the collar/spacer I used for my setup:

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                          /1662199036/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

                          I also thought of using a wooden dowel with a hole drilled through
                          it, or a rubber or plastic bushing of some sort, but these were the
                          first thing I saw at the hardware store that seemed to really fit the
                          bill.

                          This last picture is supposed to show the turning radius of a trailer
                          with the hitch mounted as I have it, but I think primarily it just
                          shows how dirty my garage is...oh well!

                          http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic
                          /1728383457/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc

                          Bottom line, with this setup I've never come even close to binding
                          the trailer in
                          real-life riding. When I was pulling the trailer before the X I had
                          to pay a lot closer attention to how sharp I was turning (granted the
                          bike had a lot tighter turning radius back then too) and I would
                          occasionally hit the attachment arm with the back wheel.

                          Another note: Make sure and use self-locking nuts. I'm not sure if
                          it's 100% necessary, but I leave the assembly loose enough that the
                          hitch socket can rotate semi-freely. The chariot hitch design has a
                          pretty good range of motion, but I like to have the hitch able to
                          move rather than stressing the parts if such an occasion arises (say
                          a steep ditch). I've only had this approach back-fire on me 1 time
                          and that was when I had about 80-90 pounds of groceries in the back
                          of the chariot (which you aren't going to be able to do unless you've
                          had a custom bag made too) which put a lot of upward force on the
                          hitch (groceries hang behind the wheels which tries to send the hitch
                          skyward) and on the way home I noticed the trailer swerving badly
                          after a sizable bump. I stopped and found the hitch had rotated 180
                          degrees. I rotated it back to it's normal position and didn't have
                          any further trouble with it. Since then I've learned to pack the X
                          heavy and the trailer light (if I even have to use the trailer which
                          is probably less than 50% of my shopping trips).


                          --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Geoff Cisler" <gcisler@...>
                          wrote:
                          >
                          > I personally would love to see some more pictures. I'm planning on
                          > using my chariot, once i finish up my bike build, and would be
                          > interested in seeing more specifics. and I got kind of lost in the
                          > verbal description, but it is 7am right now...
                          >
                          > geoff
                          > jamaica plain, ma
                          >
                        • Mark Garvey
                          I have a Trek Transit that uses that same hitch and ball system, I rigged up a mount on the center of the rear of the X that holds both the Trek hitch and
                          Message 12 of 13 , Feb 15, 2009
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                            I have a Trek "Transit" that uses that same hitch and ball system,  I rigged up a mount on the center of the rear of the X that holds both the Trek hitch and the hitch ball for my small utility trailer.  I will have to get a photo of that.  At some point, I think I will have to put a hitch on the back of the transit so that I can haul the kids AND the trailer.  but with the X it is a moot point and that would be for fun mostly.

                            mark
                          • watrout
                            ... http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/9 10409929/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                            Message 13 of 13 , Feb 17, 2009
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                              --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "watrout" <watrout@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > Geoff,
                              >
                              > Sorry to take so long to get back to you. Finally got the camera out
                              > and snapped some pics of my hitch design. Again, if any of the links
                              > don't work just look for Wes' X on the photos page (there are also
                              > some additional pictures of the hitch there that I didn't link to in
                              > this post).
                              >
                              > Here's a view of the hitch installed:
                              >
                              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/910409929/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                              >
                              > Note the rear fender placement in this picture if you're planning on
                              > hooking up a trailer - it's rotated much lower than most people do
                              > but you have to have it that low to keep the road muck of your little
                              > one. I actually added that reflective triangle mainly to serve as a
                              > mud flap extension.
                              >
                              > Here's what the hitch setup looks like removed:
                              >
                              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/1374329296/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                              >
                              > Here's a closeup of the collar/spacer I used for my setup:
                              >
                              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/1662199036/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                              >
                              > I also thought of using a wooden dowel with a hole drilled through
                              > it, or a rubber or plastic bushing of some sort, but these were the
                              > first thing I saw at the hardware store that seemed to really fit the
                              > bill.
                              >
                              > This last picture is supposed to show the turning radius of a trailer
                              > with the hitch mounted as I have it, but I think primarily it just
                              > shows how dirty my garage is...oh well!
                              >
                              > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/rootsradicals/photos/album/302938271/pic/1728383457/view?picmode=large&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc
                              >
                              > Bottom line, with this setup I've never come even close to binding
                              > the trailer in
                              > real-life riding. When I was pulling the trailer before the X I had
                              > to pay a lot closer attention to how sharp I was turning (granted the
                              > bike had a lot tighter turning radius back then too) and I would
                              > occasionally hit the attachment arm with the back wheel.
                              >
                              > Another note: Make sure and use self-locking nuts. I'm not sure if
                              > it's 100% necessary, but I leave the assembly loose enough that the
                              > hitch socket can rotate semi-freely. The chariot hitch design has a
                              > pretty good range of motion, but I like to have the hitch able to
                              > move rather than stressing the parts if such an occasion arises (say
                              > a steep ditch). I've only had this approach back-fire on me 1 time
                              > and that was when I had about 80-90 pounds of groceries in the back
                              > of the chariot (which you aren't going to be able to do unless you've
                              > had a custom bag made too) which put a lot of upward force on the
                              > hitch (groceries hang behind the wheels which tries to send the hitch
                              > skyward) and on the way home I noticed the trailer swerving badly
                              > after a sizable bump. I stopped and found the hitch had rotated 180
                              > degrees. I rotated it back to it's normal position and didn't have
                              > any further trouble with it. Since then I've learned to pack the X
                              > heavy and the trailer light (if I even have to use the trailer which
                              > is probably less than 50% of my shopping trips).

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