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  • Elizabeth D Murray
    Congrats on your new baby! I agree with the PP. Even baby jogging strollers suggest waiting until 5-6 mo when they have better neck control.
    Message 1 of 14 , Nov 20, 2012
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      Congrats on your new baby! I agree with the PP. Even baby jogging strollers suggest waiting until 5-6 mo when they have better neck control.
    • Tone
      George, I concur with everyone’s assessment about carrying an infant. You might inadvertently cause shaken-baby syndrome to your precious one while just
      Message 2 of 14 , Nov 20, 2012
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        George,
        I concur with everyone’s assessment about carrying an infant. You might
        inadvertently cause shaken-baby syndrome to your precious one while just
        going on a nice pleasant ride around the block.
        I also strongly suggest you be wary about attaching a seat to your
        snap-deck. Someone else touched on the suspension issues inherent to an
        infant in an attached car seat, which again goes back to the shaken-baby
        concern, but it is called a “snap-deck” for a reason. A few times when I
        still had a wooden snap deck it came loose from a bump in the road. One
        time it even came loose while transporting my girlfriend on the back! We
        were just going over a metal plate on a bridge. Obviously you would be
        much more careful with a kid on the back, but it is still something to
        think about.
        After that I retrofitted buckle straps near the front and back ends of
        the snap deck, so that the straps wrapped around the deck and the metal
        tubing of the racks. This way the snap deck could not be taken off or pop
        off on its own without the straps being unfastened. Before I set up a
        stoker bar the forward strap also doubled as a hand hold, similar to what
        a cowboy on a bull might hold onto. Now on my Big Dummy I have the black
        plastic polyethylene (?) deck from Xtracycle, which includes metal
        mounting hooks that prevent the deck from popping off at all.

        Ride safe, including your little ones…
        _TONE_
      • Tone
        George, I concur with everyone’s assessment about carrying an infant. You might inadvertently cause shaken-baby syndrome to your precious one while just
        Message 3 of 14 , Nov 20, 2012
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          George,
          I concur with everyone’s assessment about carrying an infant. You might
          inadvertently cause shaken-baby syndrome to your precious one while just
          going on a nice pleasant ride around the block.
          I also strongly suggest you be wary about attaching a seat to your
          snap-deck. Someone else touched on the suspension issues inherent to an
          infant in an attached car seat, which again goes back to the shaken-baby
          concern, but it is called a “snap-deck” for a reason. A few times when I
          still had a wooden snap deck it came loose from a bump in the road. One
          time it even came loose while transporting my girlfriend on the back! We
          were just going over a metal plate on a bridge. Obviously you would be
          much more careful with a kid on the back, but it is still something to
          think about.
          After that I retrofitted buckle straps near the front and back ends of
          the snap deck, so that the straps wrapped around the deck and the metal
          tubing of the racks. This way the snap deck could not be taken off or pop
          off on its own without the straps being unfastened. Before I set up a
          stoker bar the forward strap also doubled as a hand hold, similar to what
          a cowboy on a bull might hold onto. Now on my Big Dummy I have the black
          plastic polyethylene (?) deck from Xtracycle, which includes metal
          mounting hooks that prevent the deck from popping off at all.

          Ride safe, including your little ones…
          _TONE_
        • Hose Träger
          Dear George, I am new to this group but challange the same problem in april next year. Look at the solution in the netherlands
          Message 4 of 14 , Nov 21, 2012
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            Dear George,

            I am new to this group but challange the same problem in april next year.
            Look at the solution in the netherlands
            http://www.steco.nl/media/images/Producten/zijaanzicht/50_100_11%20Baby%20-%20Mee%20bike%20toepassing%20zijaanzicht.jpg

            There is some kind of suspension but I suggest to wait until the baby is maybe three month old too. So instead riding the bike I will use the public transport next summer or use our chariot cougar with the baby seat.

            Happy riding and greetings from germany,
            Jana


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            An: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
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            I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?

            Thanks, George



          • Dave Lloyd
            Dad of four here, and I agree: you really want to ride your bike with the new one, but it s probably best to wait a bit. When you do start riding, take it
            Message 5 of 14 , Nov 21, 2012
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              Dad of four here, and I agree: you really want to ride your bike with the new one, but it's probably best to wait a bit.  When you do start riding, take it slow and easy and ride with fat tires at a lower pressure to provide some natural suspension. Be especially mindful of situations that may create a conflict (that's a conflict of space rather than a shouting match) with you and motorists when you start riding, so make sure to make yourself visible and to not ride in a way that encourages people to pass you too closely or turn in front of you. Also, putting a baby seat on the top of your deck can make your bike unexpectedly top heavy, so be aware of the tip factor, too.  

              I can pull a Burley with my Big Dummy (total kid capacity is four with that setup, the same as our minivan), and I'd feel far more comfortable with towing a baby in either a Burley or Chariot than on the back of my Big Dummy. You'll be busy enough just figuring out what to do with the new sprout, so don't overly complicate the situation.

              Congratulations on your new addition and happy riding! Even if you wait just three months, it'll pass before your know it, though that might just be the sleep deprivation playing havoc with your short and medium term memory.

              --dlloyd

            • Thom Chiaramonte
              We put my second child in a Burley within his car seat, from about 6-9 months, then he joined his sister in the pea pods thereafter. On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:41,
              Message 6 of 14 , Nov 21, 2012
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                We put my second child in a Burley within his car seat, from about 6-9 months, then he joined his sister in the pea pods thereafter. 

                On Nov 21, 2012, at 9:41, Dave Lloyd <dave@...> wrote:

                 

                Dad of four here, and I agree: you really want to ride your bike with the new one, but it's probably best to wait a bit.  When you do start riding, take it slow and easy and ride with fat tires at a lower pressure to provide some natural suspension. Be especially mindful of situations that may create a conflict (that's a conflict of space rather than a shouting match) with you and motorists when you start riding, so make sure to make yourself visible and to not ride in a way that encourages people to pass you too closely or turn in front of you. Also, putting a baby seat on the top of your deck can make your bike unexpectedly top heavy, so be aware of the tip factor, too.  


                I can pull a Burley with my Big Dummy (total kid capacity is four with that setup, the same as our minivan), and I'd feel far more comfortable with towing a baby in either a Burley or Chariot than on the back of my Big Dummy. You'll be busy enough just figuring out what to do with the new sprout, so don't overly complicate the situation.

                Congratulations on your new addition and happy riding! Even if you wait just three months, it'll pass before your know it, though that might just be the sleep deprivation playing havoc with your short and medium term memory.

                --dlloyd

              • Neil Travers
                I didn t try cycling with our child until he was about a year old (front seat) , but for someone who has, see
                Message 7 of 14 , Nov 21, 2012
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                  I didn't try cycling with our child until he was about a year old (front seat) , but for someone who has,  see
                  And some comments on one of their other posts. Though they also went for a trailer.  

                  Neil.

                  On 20 Nov 2012, at 19:06, phishead_g <gussesg@...> wrote:

                   

                  I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?

                  Thanks, George

                • Sean
                  I have been very adventurous with all 3 of my kids on bikes, to the disagreement of some folks who do not gel with my philosophy. I would add a different
                  Message 8 of 14 , Nov 21, 2012
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                    I have been very adventurous with all 3 of my kids on bikes, to the disagreement of some folks who do not gel with my philosophy. I would add a different approach than some have advised. It will be a whole lot of work and inconvenient to buy, devise and incorporate a safe means to do this properly for the short amount of time they are that small. Not to mention, all that hassle could take some of the fun out of it. I would hang tight until the little guy can fit properly into a front mounted seat like a Ibert or a weeride. They are awesome since you can easily talk to them the whole time you are riding. Little ones require lots of conversation to keep busy and entertained while riding. The weeride also has a cool fixed pad in front in the event they fall asleep (which happened all the time with my kids). Once they get big enough to hold on then swap to the rear rider options. I think a stoker stem/bar with some bmx buddy pegs work great. 

                    Contact me off list for details on the stoker set up.

                    Sean

                    Sent from my iPad

                    On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:06 AM, "phishead_g" <gussesg@...> wrote:

                     

                    I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?

                    Thanks, George

                  • Liz W Durham
                    I totally second the front seat! I used a bobike mini for my son. It was great. He and I could interact, he had the best view of all, bike balance stayed
                    Message 9 of 14 , Nov 22, 2012
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                      I totally second the front seat! I used a bobike mini for my son. It was great. He and I could interact, he had the best view of all, bike balance stayed stable. Once he started to get too tall to sit in front of me I retro-fit his mini seat to the snap deck and he started riding behind me. By the time he was 3 1/2 we tossed the seat entirely and sat him directly on the snap deck along with a stoker bar and seat belt.
                      I know the excitement of wanting to bring your new little one riding. It really will be safest to wait until the baby isn't quite so "new." The bouncing and jarring of a bike ride is a lot of force for an infant, especially if he or she is on the back of the bike. And don't forget that the addition of a helmet is a lot of extra weight for the little one to manage. Another reason to consider waiting and going with a front mount seat is that I bet you will notice more potential bumps that would be too much for the little one. It just gives a different perspective with your babe practically nestled in between your arms while riding.

                      On Nov 21, 2012 11:12 PM, "Sean" <gear.head@...> wrote:
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                      >  
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                      > I have been very adventurous with all 3 of my kids on bikes, to the disagreement of some folks who do not gel with my philosophy. I would add a different approach than some have advised. It will be a whole lot of work and inconvenient to buy, devise and incorporate a safe means to do this properly for the short amount of time they are that small. Not to mention, all that hassle could take some of the fun out of it. I would hang tight until the little guy can fit properly into a front mounted seat like a Ibert or a weeride. They are awesome since you can easily talk to them the whole time you are riding. Little ones require lots of conversation to keep busy and entertained while riding. The weeride also has a cool fixed pad in front in the event they fall asleep (which happened all the time with my kids). Once they get big enough to hold on then swap to the rear rider options. I think a stoker stem/bar with some bmx buddy pegs work great. 
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                      > Contact me off list for details on the stoker set up.
                      >
                      > Sean
                      >
                      > Sent from my iPad
                      >
                      > On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:06 AM, "phishead_g" <gussesg@...> wrote:
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                      >>  
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                      >> I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?
                      >>
                      >> Thanks, George
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                      >

                    • Neil Travers
                      Definitely agree the bobike mini is great once they are big enough. But if they are too small to go in a front seat they really should not be wearing a helmet!
                      Message 10 of 14 , Nov 22, 2012
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                        Definitely agree the bobike mini is great once they are big enough. 

                        But if they are too small to go in a front seat they really should not be wearing a helmet!

                        Neil.

                        On 22 Nov 2012, at 09:37, Liz W Durham <lizwdurham@...> wrote:

                         

                        I totally second the front seat! I used a bobike mini for my son. It was great. He and I could interact, he had the best view of all, bike balance stayed stable. Once he started to get too tall to sit in front of me I retro-fit his mini seat to the snap deck and he started riding behind me. By the time he was 3 1/2 we tossed the seat entirely and sat him directly on the snap deck along with a stoker bar and seat belt.
                        I know the excitement of wanting to bring your new little one riding. It really will be safest to wait until the baby isn't quite so "new." The bouncing and jarring of a bike ride is a lot of force for an infant, especially if he or she is on the back of the bike. And don't forget that the addition of a helmet is a lot of extra weight for the little one to manage. Another reason to consider waiting and going with a front mount seat is that I bet you will notice more potential bumps that would be too much for the little one. It just gives a different perspective with your babe practically nestled in between your arms while riding.

                        On Nov 21, 2012 11:12 PM, "Sean" <gear.head@...> wrote:
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                        >  
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                        > I have been very adventurous with all 3 of my kids on bikes, to the disagreement of some folks who do not gel with my philosophy. I would add a different approach than some have advised. It will be a whole lot of work and inconvenient to buy, devise and incorporate a safe means to do this properly for the short amount of time they are that small. Not to mention, all that hassle could take some of the fun out of it. I would hang tight until the little guy can fit properly into a front mounted seat like a Ibert or a weeride. They are awesome since you can easily talk to them the whole time you are riding. Little ones require lots of conversation to keep busy and entertained while riding. The weeride also has a cool fixed pad in front in the event they fall asleep (which happened all the time with my kids). Once they get big enough to hold on then swap to the rear rider options. I think a stoker stem/bar with some bmx buddy pegs work great. 
                        >
                        > Contact me off list for details on the stoker set up.
                        >
                        > Sean
                        >
                        > Sent from my iPad
                        >
                        > On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:06 AM, "phishead_g" <gussesg@...> wrote:
                        >
                        >>  
                        >>
                        >> I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?
                        >>
                        >> Thanks, George
                        >>
                        >

                      • Liz W Durham
                        I agree with that Neil. Didn t mean to imply otherwise.
                        Message 11 of 14 , Nov 22, 2012
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                          I agree with that Neil. Didn't mean to imply otherwise.

                          On Nov 22, 2012 8:08 AM, "Neil Travers" <neil.travers+yg@...> wrote:
                           

                          Definitely agree the bobike mini is great once they are big enough. 

                          But if they are too small to go in a front seat they really should not be wearing a helmet!

                          Neil.

                          On 22 Nov 2012, at 09:37, Liz W Durham <lizwdurham@...> wrote:

                           

                          I totally second the front seat! I used a bobike mini for my son. It was great. He and I could interact, he had the best view of all, bike balance stayed stable. Once he started to get too tall to sit in front of me I retro-fit his mini seat to the snap deck and he started riding behind me. By the time he was 3 1/2 we tossed the seat entirely and sat him directly on the snap deck along with a stoker bar and seat belt.
                          I know the excitement of wanting to bring your new little one riding. It really will be safest to wait until the baby isn't quite so "new." The bouncing and jarring of a bike ride is a lot of force for an infant, especially if he or she is on the back of the bike. And don't forget that the addition of a helmet is a lot of extra weight for the little one to manage. Another reason to consider waiting and going with a front mount seat is that I bet you will notice more potential bumps that would be too much for the little one. It just gives a different perspective with your babe practically nestled in between your arms while riding.

                          On Nov 21, 2012 11:12 PM, "Sean" <gear.head@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >  
                          >
                          > I have been very adventurous with all 3 of my kids on bikes, to the disagreement of some folks who do not gel with my philosophy. I would add a different approach than some have advised. It will be a whole lot of work and inconvenient to buy, devise and incorporate a safe means to do this properly for the short amount of time they are that small. Not to mention, all that hassle could take some of the fun out of it. I would hang tight until the little guy can fit properly into a front mounted seat like a Ibert or a weeride. They are awesome since you can easily talk to them the whole time you are riding. Little ones require lots of conversation to keep busy and entertained while riding. The weeride also has a cool fixed pad in front in the event they fall asleep (which happened all the time with my kids). Once they get big enough to hold on then swap to the rear rider options. I think a stoker stem/bar with some bmx buddy pegs work great. 
                          >
                          > Contact me off list for details on the stoker set up.
                          >
                          > Sean
                          >
                          > Sent from my iPad
                          >
                          > On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:06 AM, "phishead_g" <gussesg@...> wrote:
                          >
                          >>  
                          >>
                          >> I have rode an x for years and absoultely love it! My wife and I just had a baby and I was woundering if anyone had made there own infant carrier. I was thinking of finding an old car seat and drilling holes in it to be able to mount it to the wooden board that comes with the free rad kit. Any thoughts/suggestions?
                          >>
                          >> Thanks, George
                          >>
                          >

                        • David Dannenberg
                          When mine were little I strapped the carseat right into the Burley trailer. Worked great. Don t remember how old they were when I first did this. I don t think
                          Message 12 of 14 , Nov 22, 2012
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                            When mine were little I strapped the carseat right into the Burley trailer. Worked great. Don't remember how old they were when I first did this. I don't think I did any damage. They are certainly healthy young adults right now. Car seat offers lots of great protection and support. This is not to say that waiting several months is not a great idea, only that when you do start you might as well use a system designed to carry them securely in a moving vehicle.

                            David 
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