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  • anthonyeberger
    I ve towed at least 10 bikes on my Xtra. I just took my daughter and her bike to the park for her to practice riding. I ve even towed my wife s bike with the
    Message 1 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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      I've towed at least 10 bikes on my Xtra. I just took my daughter and her bike to the park for her to practice riding. I've even towed my wife's bike with the Burley attached after she caught a ride home in the rain.

      I've never used any sort of fork mount or anything. I've always just carefully attached the front wheel to the Xtra. I always carry hold down stuff. Especially old tubes as they work very well and are easy to cut should I need two.

      My first gen freeloaders still appear to be fine. I should note that I put the bikes on the drive side of the bike after getting a small hole on the brake side caused by my BB7 rubbing the bag.

      Than again, I'm also the weirdo riding my Xtra with a front suspension fork which many think is a no no too :)

      Tony B.
      RiverWest Wi

      --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "E_E_Thomas" <eli@...> wrote:
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      > Hi! I just saw this new towing system for the Yuba Mundo:
      > http://dingdingletsride.com/updated-how-to-tow-a-bike-with-a-yuba-mundo/
      >
      > Anyone know if there's an analogous product available for the xtra?
      > Right now we just strap the front tires of our kids' bikes into the Freeloaders, but it does damage the freeloaders over time. This looks like a nice alternative.
      >
    • dr2chase@mac.com
      ... Eventually, it is a no no. I wore mine out quite a lot after just a few years, which is what precipitated the Big D upgrade. Donor bike was reassembled
      Message 2 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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        On 2012-10-25, at 7:50 AM, anthonyeberger <anthonyeberger@...> wrote:
        > Than again, I'm also the weirdo riding my Xtra with a front suspension fork which many think is a no no too :)

        Eventually, it is a no no. I wore mine out quite a lot after just a few years, which is what precipitated the Big D upgrade. Donor bike was reassembled and rebuilt to best of ability and sold for small $ to a much lighter person (with a warning about the fork -- it wasn't unusable, just getting old fast under my use) and sold the FreeRadical to someone on this list.

        The thing I am coming to appreciate more and more is that (modern) bicycles really are not much overbuilt, which is why you need to keep an eye on that fork; the longer wheelbase adds a lot to the load on the front wheel. And if you already weigh over 200lbs, and drive on our wonderful Northeastern roads....

        David
      • Thom Chiaramonte
        That s a funny aside about the fork. I built my longbike out of a 29er. I spent the first 100mi or so with the fork locked out and then finally released the
        Message 3 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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          That's a funny aside about the fork. I built my longbike out of a 29er. I spent the first 100mi or so with the fork locked out and then finally released the suspension as an experiment and liked it enough to keep it that way...

          On Oct 25, 2012, at 4:50, anthonyeberger <anthonyeberger@...> wrote:

           

          I've towed at least 10 bikes on my Xtra. I just took my daughter and her bike to the park for her to practice riding. I've even towed my wife's bike with the Burley attached after she caught a ride home in the rain.

          I've never used any sort of fork mount or anything. I've always just carefully attached the front wheel to the Xtra. I always carry hold down stuff. Especially old tubes as they work very well and are easy to cut should I need two.

          My first gen freeloaders still appear to be fine. I should note that I put the bikes on the drive side of the bike after getting a small hole on the brake side caused by my BB7 rubbing the bag.

          Than again, I'm also the weirdo riding my Xtra with a front suspension fork which many think is a no no too :)

          Tony B.
          RiverWest Wi

          --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "E_E_Thomas" <eli@...> wrote:
          >
          > Hi! I just saw this new towing system for the Yuba Mundo:
          > http://dingdingletsride.com/updated-how-to-tow-a-bike-with-a-yuba-mundo/
          >
          > Anyone know if there's an analogous product available for the xtra?
          > Right now we just strap the front tires of our kids' bikes into the Freeloaders, but it does damage the freeloaders over time. This looks like a nice alternative.
          >

        • E_E_Thomas
          I ve seen those setups too. But the ones I ve seen only accommodate one bike. I d like to be able to have a bike on either side, as I have two kids. That s
          Message 4 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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            I've seen those setups too. But the ones I've seen only accommodate one bike. I'd like to be able to have a bike on either side, as I have two kids. That's why the yuba mundo approach had appeal -- it's a modified running board, so that you can slot the front tire of the towed bike into the running board. It seems like you should be able to do one on each side, and I think it would impinge less on cargo space than strapping the front wheels into the freeloader. And hopefully have less friction on the freeloaders.

            http://yubaride.com/yubashop/product.php?id_product=97

            --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, bruno.verachten@... wrote:
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            > I have seen lots of pictures of fork holders attached to xtra rear, with the front wheel in a FreeLoader.
          • A
            Nice solution - thanks for post.
            Message 5 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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              Nice solution - thanks for post.
            • Brian Livelsberger
              Love my xtra w. suspended front fork. Will keep an eye on it after these comments, though. On Oct 25, 2012 7:59 PM, Thom Chiaramonte
              Message 6 of 14 , Oct 25, 2012
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                Love my xtra w. suspended front fork. Will keep an eye on it after these comments, though.

                On Oct 25, 2012 7:59 PM, "Thom Chiaramonte" <thom@...> wrote:
                >
                >  
                >
                > That's a funny aside about the fork. I built my longbike out of a 29er. I spent the first 100mi or so with the fork locked out and then finally released the suspension as an experiment and liked it enough to keep it that way...
                >
                > On Oct 25, 2012, at 4:50, anthonyeberger <anthonyeberger@...> wrote:
                >
                >>  
                >>
                >> I've towed at least 10 bikes on my Xtra. I just took my daughter and her bike to the park for her to practice riding. I've even towed my wife's bike with the Burley attached after she caught a ride home in the rain.
                >>
                >> I've never used any sort of fork mount or anything. I've always just carefully attached the front wheel to the Xtra. I always carry hold down stuff. Especially old tubes as they work very well and are easy to cut should I need two.
                >>
                >> My first gen freeloaders still appear to be fine. I should note that I put the bikes on the drive side of the bike after getting a small hole on the brake side caused by my BB7 rubbing the bag.
                >>
                >>
                >> Than again, I'm also the weirdo riding my Xtra with a front suspension fork which many think is a no no too :)
                >>
                >> Tony B.
                >> RiverWest Wi
                >>
                >>
                >> --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "E_E_Thomas" <eli@...> wrote:
                >> >
                >> > Hi! I just saw this new towing system for the Yuba Mundo:
                >> > http://dingdingletsride.com/updated-how-to-tow-a-bike-with-a-yuba-mundo/
                >> >
                >> > Anyone know if there's an analogous product available for the xtra?
                >> > Right now we just strap the front tires of our kids' bikes into the Freeloaders, but it does damage the freeloaders over time. This looks like a nice alternative.
                >> >
                >>
                >

              • Andrew
                I m in the process of building up a Yuba Mundo and like the idea of the tow tray. I checked some details with Yuba and they said that if towing 2 bikes of the
                Message 7 of 14 , Oct 26, 2012
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                  I'm in the process of building up a Yuba Mundo and like the idea of the tow tray. I checked some details with Yuba and they said that if towing 2 bikes of the same wheel size there can be an issue with the handlebars getting in the way of each other.

                  No doubt there's a way to work it so it can work with with 2 bikes with the same size wheels, but it will need some thought and adjustment.

                  In the end I decided I'm already over budget some and to have a go at making some running boards with slots to accommodate towed bike wheel. Yet to do that though. I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to make some similar running boards with slots for an Xtracycle.

                  I did stretch to some Yuba wheel skirts which will hopefully protect the freeloaders from frame and parts rub.
                • anthonyeberger
                  Good information David. Thanks, I ll keep an eye on it. Thankfully I m a tad under 200lbs but it does have a rather heavy electric hub wheel and a bunch of
                  Message 8 of 14 , Oct 26, 2012
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                    Good information David. Thanks, I'll keep an eye on it. Thankfully I'm a tad under 200lbs but it does have a rather heavy electric hub wheel and a bunch of heavy batteries in back.

                    Oddly, I was just talking to someone looking to unload a pugsly fork and I was considering the swap. I think I'll get it just "in case". At least that's how I'll justify to the wife that I need to spend more money on bikes :)

                    I'm waiting for the side car too. My goal is 3 sets of batteries so I can comfortably ride to the Midwest Renewable Energy Fair next spring with all my camping gear and such. It's about 150 miles and hilly.

                    Keep riding

                    Tony B.

                    --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, dr2chase@... wrote:
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                    >
                    > On 2012-10-25, at 7:50 AM, anthonyeberger <anthonyeberger@...> wrote:
                    > > Than again, I'm also the weirdo riding my Xtra with a front suspension fork which many think is a no no too :)
                    >
                    > Eventually, it is a no no. I wore mine out quite a lot after just a few years, which is what precipitated the Big D upgrade. Donor bike was reassembled and rebuilt to best of ability and sold for small $ to a much lighter person (with a warning about the fork -- it wasn't unusable, just getting old fast under my use) and sold the FreeRadical to someone on this list.
                    >
                    > The thing I am coming to appreciate more and more is that (modern) bicycles really are not much overbuilt, which is why you need to keep an eye on that fork; the longer wheelbase adds a lot to the load on the front wheel. And if you already weigh over 200lbs, and drive on our wonderful Northeastern roads....
                    >
                    > David
                    >
                  • David Dannenberg
                    Add two slotted boards to a wideloader and wouldn t you have the same thing as the Yuba towing unit? David Dannenberg
                    Message 9 of 14 , Oct 28, 2012
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                      Add two slotted boards to a wideloader and wouldn't you have the same thing as the Yuba towing unit?

                      David Dannenberg
                    • A
                      I was thinking the same thing - although it may need to be a polymer plank so as not to scratch wheel / fork and maybe a cut out for any disc brake haulage?
                      Message 10 of 14 , Oct 29, 2012
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                        I was thinking the same thing - although it may need to be a polymer plank so as not to scratch wheel / fork and maybe a cut out for any disc brake haulage?

                        How would you secure the planks - drill into the aluminium?
                        Andy
                      • David Dannenberg
                        Drill through the wood on the inside of the wideloader bar and thread stainless steel hose clamps (or zip ties) through and around the wideloader bar. Or, on
                        Message 11 of 14 , Oct 30, 2012
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                          Drill through the wood on the inside of the wideloader bar and thread stainless steel hose clamps (or zip ties) through and around the wideloader bar. Or, on the bottom of the board use the little clamps used to mount pipe or conduit to a wall.

                          David Dannenberg
                        • Tone
                          How does the Yuba Mundo avoid having a towed bike’s fork, stem, handlebar, etc. rub or bump against the long tail framing? From the photos it looks like
                          Message 12 of 14 , Oct 31, 2012
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                            How does the Yuba Mundo avoid having a towed bike’s fork, stem,
                            handlebar, etc. rub or bump against the long tail framing? From the
                            photos it looks like there is some sort of narrow black plastic bumper
                            screwed horizontally to the long tail framing, but I do not see how it
                            alone prevents the towed bike from leaning away from the hauling bike. I
                            would imagine tie-downs of some sort must be needed to restrain the bike
                            against the long tail framing, which is why that plastic strip is
                            necessary as protection between the two bikes.

                            According to the photos, I would not think it would be too hard at all to
                            make a similar track-slot for an Xtracycle’s wide loaders. Someone
                            mentioned just attaching planks with cut out slots in them across the top
                            of the wide loaders. I do not think that would even be necessary. You
                            might be able to get away with just using two lengths of conduit or bars
                            between the front and back tubing of the wide-loaders separated by a
                            space, which would be the width of the tire you want to slip through.
                            Along the bars you would drill in adjustment holes to screw in a front
                            bumper for the appropriately diameter wheel(s) you intend to haul. The
                            rear tubing of the wide-loader would function as the back bumper of the
                            slot. The only major concern to this idea would be the possible need to
                            include some kind of padding or soft bumper system so that the tire rim
                            and/or spokes do not rub against the metal of the bars you use on either
                            side of the slot.

                            Ride safe,
                            _TONE_
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