Re: hitch pins? / dog carriers
- Hey Tim,
I don't know if the v-rack is the same as a wide loader, but I replaced my v-racks with p-racks, and so i was in the same position as you, i had extra v-racks, and wanted wide loaders. I took a hacksaw, and cut 2 5/8" off of the "rear" end of the tube, which meant that i could slide that end into the frame all the way to the bend which is in the v-rack on the backside of it. I used the clips from the x-tra cycle website, which work really well, but were very expensive for what they are.(hitchpins sound like a good replacement).
The angles seem a bit off when you slide the racks in, but it works well. THey may be a bit wider than the wide loaders . . . I don't know since i have never had a pair of wide loaders in front of me. I have used them a few times already, and it seems to be just fine.
(i did buy a long loader attachment which works well with the modified v-rack . . . however, it wouldn't be too hard to rig a DIY long loader setup.)
--- In firstname.lastname@example.org, Tim Brown <tbbrown1@...> wrote:
> Thanks for the response. I purchased my xtracycle primarily with the hope
> that I will be able to haul my dog 4 miles to the local off-leash dog park
> (the only place I regularly drive). I have a small Springer Spaniel (about
> 40lbs) and am hopeful that he will ride comfortably with me.
> The reason I ask about the v-racks/wideloaders is that due to a screw-up I
> ended up with an extra set of v-racks. Might as well put them to use... A
> friend has a set of wideloaders so I will confirm my suspicions. Hitch pins
> would simplify attachment and are available at any hardware store. My plans
> are for a wooden deck screwed to the wideloader and a rail of 1/2" conduit.
> I'll post some pictures when complete.
> On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Tone <tone@...> wrote:
> > **
> > Tim,
> > I have both wide loaders and V-racks. They are not sitting in front of me
> > right now, but I am pretty sure they are not the same shape. If they are,
> > then I would be surprised I never realized it, but from an
> > interchangeability perspective that would be better as an initial design
> > concept. I think the wide loaders are wider toward their front then they
> > are in back for maneuverability reasons while riding/turning. I believe
> > if you tried to put the wide loaders into the V-rack mounts the
> > wide-loader would therefore result in a non-level snap-deck platform,
> > which a passenger could potentially slide off toward the back when
> > sitting on.
> > You are right about the wide loaders having quick clip buttons inside
> > while the V-racks do not. However, I bought my wide loaders years ago
> > when Xtracycle was much newer, so my wide loaders do not even have the
> > drilled holes or button-clips. I suppose I could have drilled the holes
> > and bought my own button-clips, but it was never a problem for me. I
> > simply ran the freeloaders under and around to the outside of the wide
> > loaders, which created a fabric platform for my load. Of course, this was
> > even before Xtracycle developed the wide loader slings. Eventually I got
> > those for my wide loaders and I did not have to wrap my free loaders
> > under and around the wide loaders. That is because the wide loader slings
> > actually hold the wide loaders in from sliding out because they have two
> > Velcro straps to attach to the Xtracycle or long-tail bike frame.
> > I hope that answers your questions. I am curious what your ideas for
> > using hitch pins involved. I guess I just can not imagine really needing
> > them because of how versatile the Xtracycle system already is. By the
> > way, considering you are thinking about building your own dog carrier I
> > figured you might be interested in a nice one I already built for my dog.
> > I have a folder on my online server with several photos (most close up
> > technical shots), a couple of scaled diagrams, and an instructional DIY
> > text. It is all here:
> > http://www.cranksgiving.net/XtraDogChariot/
> > You should note that my dog is a Border Collie/Lab mix puppy, who I do
> > not believe will ever reach above 50 pounds. At almost 45 pounds I
> > certainly notice when she is on board, but she has gotten pretty good
> > about sitting still. When I first built the dog chariot for my Big Dummy
> > she was only about three months old and well under thirty pounds. I do
> > not really recommend considering a one-sided dog platform for a dog much
> > over sixty pounds. As it is, when I carry her on the right side of the
> > bike, I make sure to load all my gear, tools, and 3ï¿½ long kryptonite NY
> > chain-lock in the left sideï¿½s Freeloader pockets to help balance her
> > weight out a little. Also, I have a Kick Back double kick stand. My pup
> > Pandora could step into it without tipping the bike over when she was
> > younger while the bike was free standing on its own, but now at over 40
> > pounds I always watch to make sure she does not. It really depends on how
> > enthusiastically she hops on. It is not a problem when I am straddling
> > the bike without the kickstand. I just have to brace myself a little. She
> > prefers to run on grass, so I have trained her pretty well to hop on or
> > off by command when we are at a brief standing stop, and it has never
> > been an issue.
> > Again I hope all of this helps somehow, and I would definitely be
> > interested in what you come up with. By the way there is also a nice
> > gallery thread of a lot of Xtracycle/cargo bike dogs on dog.com, which
> > you can see here:
> > http://forum.dog.com/forums/p/87953/934961.aspx#934961
> > There is also a dogs-on-bikes discussion thread on the Xtracycle forums,
> > but apart from my last entry it has not been added to since 2007.
> > http://www.xtracycle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=216
> > Either way maybe those can also give you some ideas too.
> > Ride safe, both you and your K9 friend,
> > _TONE_