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Re: hitch pins? / dog carriers

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  • rippledub
    Hey Tim, I don t know if the v-rack is the same as a wide loader, but I replaced my v-racks with p-racks, and so i was in the same position as you, i had extra
    Message 1 of 3 , Aug 15, 2011
      Hey Tim,
      I don't know if the v-rack is the same as a wide loader, but I replaced my v-racks with p-racks, and so i was in the same position as you, i had extra v-racks, and wanted wide loaders. I took a hacksaw, and cut 2 5/8" off of the "rear" end of the tube, which meant that i could slide that end into the frame all the way to the bend which is in the v-rack on the backside of it. I used the clips from the x-tra cycle website, which work really well, but were very expensive for what they are.(hitchpins sound like a good replacement).
      The angles seem a bit off when you slide the racks in, but it works well. THey may be a bit wider than the wide loaders . . . I don't know since i have never had a pair of wide loaders in front of me. I have used them a few times already, and it seems to be just fine.
      (i did buy a long loader attachment which works well with the modified v-rack . . . however, it wouldn't be too hard to rig a DIY long loader setup.)


      --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, Tim Brown <tbbrown1@...> wrote:
      > Tone,
      > Thanks for the response. I purchased my xtracycle primarily with the hope
      > that I will be able to haul my dog 4 miles to the local off-leash dog park
      > (the only place I regularly drive). I have a small Springer Spaniel (about
      > 40lbs) and am hopeful that he will ride comfortably with me.
      > The reason I ask about the v-racks/wideloaders is that due to a screw-up I
      > ended up with an extra set of v-racks. Might as well put them to use... A
      > friend has a set of wideloaders so I will confirm my suspicions. Hitch pins
      > would simplify attachment and are available at any hardware store. My plans
      > are for a wooden deck screwed to the wideloader and a rail of 1/2" conduit.
      > I'll post some pictures when complete.
      > Tim
      > On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Tone <tone@...> wrote:
      > > **
      > >
      > >
      > > Tim,
      > > I have both wide loaders and V-racks. They are not sitting in front of me
      > > right now, but I am pretty sure they are not the same shape. If they are,
      > > then I would be surprised I never realized it, but from an
      > > interchangeability perspective that would be better as an initial design
      > > concept. I think the wide loaders are wider toward their front then they
      > > are in back for maneuverability reasons while riding/turning. I believe
      > > if you tried to put the wide loaders into the V-rack mounts the
      > > wide-loader would therefore result in a non-level snap-deck platform,
      > > which a passenger could potentially slide off toward the back when
      > > sitting on.
      > > You are right about the wide loaders having quick clip buttons inside
      > > while the V-racks do not. However, I bought my wide loaders years ago
      > > when Xtracycle was much newer, so my wide loaders do not even have the
      > > drilled holes or button-clips. I suppose I could have drilled the holes
      > > and bought my own button-clips, but it was never a problem for me. I
      > > simply ran the freeloaders under and around to the outside of the wide
      > > loaders, which created a fabric platform for my load. Of course, this was
      > > even before Xtracycle developed the wide loader slings. Eventually I got
      > > those for my wide loaders and I did not have to wrap my free loaders
      > > under and around the wide loaders. That is because the wide loader slings
      > > actually hold the wide loaders in from sliding out because they have two
      > > Velcro straps to attach to the Xtracycle or long-tail bike frame.
      > >
      > > I hope that answers your questions. I am curious what your ideas for
      > > using hitch pins involved. I guess I just can not imagine really needing
      > > them because of how versatile the Xtracycle system already is. By the
      > > way, considering you are thinking about building your own dog carrier I
      > > figured you might be interested in a nice one I already built for my dog.
      > > I have a folder on my online server with several photos (most close up
      > > technical shots), a couple of scaled diagrams, and an instructional DIY
      > > text. It is all here:
      > > http://www.cranksgiving.net/XtraDogChariot/
      > > You should note that my dog is a Border Collie/Lab mix puppy, who I do
      > > not believe will ever reach above 50 pounds. At almost 45 pounds I
      > > certainly notice when she is on board, but she has gotten pretty good
      > > about sitting still. When I first built the dog chariot for my Big Dummy
      > > she was only about three months old and well under thirty pounds. I do
      > > not really recommend considering a one-sided dog platform for a dog much
      > > over sixty pounds. As it is, when I carry her on the right side of the
      > > bike, I make sure to load all my gear, tools, and 3� long kryptonite NY
      > > chain-lock in the left side�s Freeloader pockets to help balance her
      > > weight out a little. Also, I have a Kick Back double kick stand. My pup
      > > Pandora could step into it without tipping the bike over when she was
      > > younger while the bike was free standing on its own, but now at over 40
      > > pounds I always watch to make sure she does not. It really depends on how
      > > enthusiastically she hops on. It is not a problem when I am straddling
      > > the bike without the kickstand. I just have to brace myself a little. She
      > > prefers to run on grass, so I have trained her pretty well to hop on or
      > > off by command when we are at a brief standing stop, and it has never
      > > been an issue.
      > >
      > > Again I hope all of this helps somehow, and I would definitely be
      > > interested in what you come up with. By the way there is also a nice
      > > gallery thread of a lot of Xtracycle/cargo bike dogs on dog.com, which
      > > you can see here:
      > > http://forum.dog.com/forums/p/87953/934961.aspx#934961
      > > There is also a dogs-on-bikes discussion thread on the Xtracycle forums,
      > > but apart from my last entry it has not been added to since 2007.
      > > http://www.xtracycle.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=216
      > > Either way maybe those can also give you some ideas too.
      > >
      > > Ride safe, both you and your K9 friend,
      > > _TONE_
      > >
      > >
      > >
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