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  • Gerry Townsend
    After the $19 shipping plus customs, it is a bit expensive coming into the US. For Canadians that looks like a nice store.  --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Vik Banerjee
    Message 1 of 10 , Nov 7, 2010
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      After the $19 shipping plus customs, it is a bit expensive coming into the US. For Canadians that looks like a nice store.

       
      --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Vik Banerjee <threeohm@...> wrote:

      From: Vik Banerjee <threeohm@...>
      Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] PDW Radbot 1000 on Sale
      To: "rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com" <rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com>
      Cc: "rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com" <rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com>
      Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 4:21 PM



      Mec.ca sells radbot 1000s for $17.50cdn.  

      Sent from my iPhone

      On 2010-11-07, at 15:52, ama3655@... wrote:

       
      Rich -
       
      I've been using a couple Radbot 500's for a few months now. I tried them because of the reflectors - they are a legal requirement here. The 500's are approximately 500 less rad than the 1000's, give or take. They are less bright, but I hear that the batteries last longer.
       
      I love these things. They do everything I need, and the price is way better than a Dinotte or equivalent. Plus, they are Rad. I'll probably try a 1000 just so I can retaliate and blind some friends that use Dinotte taillights. They deserve some cheap competition.
       
      FatRob
       
       
      In a message dated 11/7/2010 2:50:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, astronut1001@... writes:
      Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when group riding.

      I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes, continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly variable flashing intensity.

      To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.

      BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost, seatstay and rack mounts.

      http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=pd_sim_sg_1

      Rich Wood
       


    • Vik Banerjee
      It s ideal if you can walk into the store and buy them. You can also buy more than 1 item and defray the shipping cost over multiple items. Based on my
      Message 2 of 10 , Nov 8, 2010
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        It's ideal if you can walk into the store and buy them.  You can also buy more than 1 item and defray the shipping cost over multiple items.  Based on my experience shipping cross border you won't pay any customs charges, but you will probably pay state sales tax on the items.

        safe riding,


        On 2010-11-07, at 4:43 PM, Gerry Townsend wrote:

         

        After the $19 shipping plus customs, it is a bit expensive coming into the US. For Canadians that looks like a nice store.

         
        --- On Sun, 11/7/10, Vik Banerjee <threeohm@...> wrote:

        From: Vik Banerjee <threeohm@...>
        Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] PDW Radbot 1000 on Sale
        To: "rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com" <rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com>
        Cc: "rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com" <rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com>
        Date: Sunday, November 7, 2010, 4:21 PM



        Mec.ca sells radbot 1000s for $17.50cdn.  

        Sent from my iPhone


      • anthony_coley
        Wow! That s a great deal on a great light! IMO, the cornea blitz mode sounds like a nice improvement over the Pop mode, or whatever it s called in the first
        Message 3 of 10 , Nov 8, 2010
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          Wow! That's a great deal on a great light!

          IMO, the "cornea blitz" mode sounds like a nice improvement over the Pop mode, or whatever it's called in the first gen. I've always wished mine had a faster flashing mode.

          I will add that the Radbot 1000 really chews up batteries, so you should invest in some rechargeables.... yeah, that prob, goes without saying...

          It seems I'm recharging my Radbot 1000 weekly, where I was recharging my PBSF every two weeks. I guess The Pop takes a lot of juice.



          --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Rich" <astronut1001@...> wrote:
          >
          > Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when group riding.
          >
          > I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes, continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly variable flashing intensity.
          >
          > To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.
          >
          > BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost, seatstay and rack mounts.
          >
          > http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=pd_sim_sg_1
          >
          > Rich Wood
          >
        • Rich
          The PBSF uses a 1/2 watt LED and within each light pulse uses high frequency pulsing to reduce power draw. It actually has a relatively sophisticated drive
          Message 4 of 10 , Nov 8, 2010
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            The PBSF uses a 1/2 watt LED and within each light pulse uses high frequency pulsing to reduce power draw. It actually has a relatively sophisticated drive circuit to maximize battery life. The Radbot has a 1 watt LED and the power to it is not modulated though I doubt that it is driven at the full 1 watt LED rating. I say that as with AAA battery capacity the batteries would have a life of under 3 hours in the continuous on mode if drawing LED full rated wattage.

            Rich Wood

            --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "anthony_coley" <anthony_coley@...> wrote:
            >
            > Wow! That's a great deal on a great light!
            >
            > IMO, the "cornea blitz" mode sounds like a nice improvement over the Pop mode, or whatever it's called in the first gen. I've always wished mine had a faster flashing mode.
            >
            > I will add that the Radbot 1000 really chews up batteries, so you should invest in some rechargeables.... yeah, that prob, goes without saying...
            >
            > It seems I'm recharging my Radbot 1000 weekly, where I was recharging my PBSF every two weeks. I guess The Pop takes a lot of juice.
            >
            >
            >
            > --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Rich" <astronut1001@> wrote:
            > >
            > > Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when group riding.
            > >
            > > I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes, continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly variable flashing intensity.
            > >
            > > To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.
            > >
            > > BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost, seatstay and rack mounts.
            > >
            > > http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=pd_sim_sg_1
            > >
            > > Rich Wood
            > >
            >
          • Rich
            Another seriously bright taillight, at least by specification, I ran across at a reasonable price is the Knog Boomer. As with other Knog lights this has a
            Message 5 of 10 , Nov 8, 2010
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              Another seriously bright taillight, at least by specification, I ran across at a reasonable price is the Knog Boomer. As with other Knog lights this has a silicone rubber based body with integral strap to wrap around a handlebar or seatpost. The Boomer is larger though and takes two AAA batteries rather than Lithium coin cells.

              The red LED Boomer taillight version CLAIMS an output of 30 Lumens and the white LED headlight version claims to have an output of 50 Lumens. In comparison the PBSF has an output of about 5 Lumens.

              Jenson has both the headlight and taillight versions available in various colors for under $20 apiece.

              Per the Knog web site there is a rechargeable version of the Boomer that recharges from a USB port coming shortly.

              Rich Wood

              --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Rich" <astronut1001@...> wrote:
              >
              > The PBSF uses a 1/2 watt LED and within each light pulse uses high frequency pulsing to reduce power draw. It actually has a relatively sophisticated drive circuit to maximize battery life. The Radbot has a 1 watt LED and the power to it is not modulated though I doubt that it is driven at the full 1 watt LED rating. I say that as with AAA battery capacity the batteries would have a life of under 3 hours in the continuous on mode if drawing LED full rated wattage.
              >
              > Rich Wood
              >
              > --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "anthony_coley" <anthony_coley@> wrote:
              > >
              > > Wow! That's a great deal on a great light!
              > >
              > > IMO, the "cornea blitz" mode sounds like a nice improvement over the Pop mode, or whatever it's called in the first gen. I've always wished mine had a faster flashing mode.
              > >
              > > I will add that the Radbot 1000 really chews up batteries, so you should invest in some rechargeables.... yeah, that prob, goes without saying...
              > >
              > > It seems I'm recharging my Radbot 1000 weekly, where I was recharging my PBSF every two weeks. I guess The Pop takes a lot of juice.
              > >
              > >
              > >
              > > --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Rich" <astronut1001@> wrote:
              > > >
              > > > Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when group riding.
              > > >
              > > > I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes, continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly variable flashing intensity.
              > > >
              > > > To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.
              > > >
              > > > BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost, seatstay and rack mounts.
              > > >
              > > > http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=pd_sim_sg_1
              > > >
              > > > Rich Wood
              > > >
              > >
              >
            • Matthew Brealey
              I have a Magicshine MJ-818 on my Ute (mounted using the supplied o-ring to the rack) It runs off a custom 4x18650 (lithium) battery pack I bought mine as a set
              Message 6 of 10 , Nov 8, 2010
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                I have a Magicshine MJ-818 on my Ute (mounted using the supplied o-ring to the rack)

                 

                It runs off a custom 4x18650 (lithium) battery pack

                I bought mine as a set with battery pack and charger for $58 http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42077

                 

                Battery life is around nine hours, then it switches to blinking mode before dying several hours later.

                 

                They are 85 lumens. 3 Watts.

                 

                They are pretty blindingly bright:

                 

                http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY08heMJpnE

                 

                Reliability is from what I’ve heard questionable – if you want quality, then Dinotte is the way to go:

                 

                140L:  $120 (uses AA batteries (not supplied) in a supplied pouch) – 140 lumens

                300R: $200 (integrated battery, USB charging)  - 300 lumens

                400R: $229 (with 2-cell battery – 400 lumens

                 

                There are some shots of the 140L against the MJ-818 here http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=620340

                 

                Basically:

                PBSF: ½ watt

                Radbot 1000: 1W

                M7-818: 3W

                Dinotte 140L: 3W, but with better optics

                 

                From: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of ama3655@...
                Sent: 07 November 2010 23:53
                To: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
                Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] PDW Radbot 1000 on Sale

                 

                 

                Rich -

                 

                I've been using a couple Radbot 500's for a few months now. I tried them because of the reflectors - they are a legal requirement here. The 500's are approximately 500 less rad than the 1000's, give or take. They are less bright, but I hear that the batteries last longer.

                 

                I love these things. They do everything I need, and the price is way better than a Dinotte or equivalent. Plus, they are Rad. I'll probably try a 1000 just so I can retaliate and blind some friends that use Dinotte taillights. They deserve some cheap competition.

                 

                FatRob

                 

                 

                In a message dated 11/7/2010 2:50:30 P.M. Central Standard Time, astronut1001@... writes:

                Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when group riding.

                I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes, continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly variable flashing intensity.

                To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.

                BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost, seatstay and rack mounts.

                http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=pd_sim_sg_1

                Rich Wood

                 

              • Rich
                Other than some of the Dinotte taillights the Magicshine is about the brightest bicycle taillight available that I am aware of. As noted it does use a
                Message 7 of 10 , Nov 9, 2010
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                  Other than some of the Dinotte taillights the Magicshine is about the brightest bicycle taillight available that I am aware of. As noted it does use a separate Lithium Ion battery pack which can be a mounting inconvenience.

                  The main US source has been Geomangear but they have temporarily ceased selling Magicshine lights due recent to quality problems with the battery packs. They are reportedly working with the vendor to resolve the problem.

                  http://www.geomangear.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=4_41&zenid=d0ck69vtaba6gvm0pkclq6ej20

                  Reviews on Bike Forums have been mixed on the Magicshine taillight.

                  Rich Wood

                  --- In rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com, "Matthew Brealey" <thelawnet@...> wrote:
                  >
                  > I have a Magicshine MJ-818 on my Ute (mounted using the supplied o-ring to
                  > the rack)
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > It runs off a custom 4x18650 (lithium) battery pack
                  >
                  > I bought mine as a set with battery pack and charger for $58
                  > http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.42077
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Battery life is around nine hours, then it switches to blinking mode before
                  > dying several hours later.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > They are 85 lumens. 3 Watts.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > They are pretty blindingly bright:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY08heMJpnE
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Reliability is from what I've heard questionable – if you want quality, then
                  > Dinotte is the way to go:
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > 140L: $120 (uses AA batteries (not supplied) in a supplied pouch) – 140
                  > lumens
                  >
                  > 300R: $200 (integrated battery, USB charging) - 300 lumens
                  >
                  > 400R: $229 (with 2-cell battery – 400 lumens
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > There are some shots of the 140L against the MJ-818 here
                  > http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=620340
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Basically:
                  >
                  > PBSF: ½ watt
                  >
                  > Radbot 1000: 1W
                  >
                  > M7-818: 3W
                  >
                  > Dinotte 140L: 3W, but with better optics
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > From: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com [mailto:rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com]
                  > On Behalf Of ama3655@...
                  > Sent: 07 November 2010 23:53
                  > To: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
                  > Subject: Re: [rootsradicals] PDW Radbot 1000 on Sale
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > Rich -
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > I've been using a couple Radbot 500's for a few months now. I tried them
                  > because of the reflectors - they are a legal requirement here. The 500's are
                  > approximately 500 less rad than the 1000's, give or take. They are less
                  > bright, but I hear that the batteries last longer.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > I love these things. They do everything I need, and the price is way better
                  > than a Dinotte or equivalent. Plus, they are Rad. I'll probably try a 1000
                  > just so I can retaliate and blind some friends that use Dinotte taillights.
                  > They deserve some cheap competition.
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > FatRob
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  >
                  > In a message dated 11/7/2010 2:50:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
                  > astronut1001@... writes:
                  >
                  > Amazon currently has this taillight for $21.02. List on the PDW web site is
                  > $32. It is considerably brighter than the Planet Bike Superflash (PBSF) and
                  > has a built-in EU legal reflector. If you do not ride in a group this is a
                  > great taillight but it is probably too bright for following cyclists when
                  > group riding.
                  >
                  > I have several of them and the latest one has a revised blink mode that
                  > Portland Dersign Works refers to as the "cornea blitz" mode. This replaces a
                  > mode that was 1 long blink and 3 shorter ones, repeated. The other modes,
                  > continuous on and blink mode, are unchanged. The cornea blitz mose is a
                  > fairly high speed flashing mode with what appears to me to be a randomly
                  > variable flashing intensity.
                  >
                  > To me one advantage over the PBSF is that the body and cover are screwed
                  > together so it takes a philips screwdriver to change the battery. IMO much
                  > less chance of losing part of the light, a reported problem with the PBSF.
                  >
                  > BTW the PBSF and Radbot 1000 use the same mounts so are interchangeable on a
                  > bike which has the PBSF mount already. The Radbot 1000 includes seatpost,
                  > seatstay and rack mounts.
                  >
                  > http://www.amazon.com/Portland-Design-Works-Radbot-Light/dp/B0030BS30K/ref=p
                  > d_sim_sg_1
                  >
                  > Rich Wood
                  >
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