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  • Justina Voulgaris
    Nice story, Anne. Don t forget, 3 bikes still take up less space than one car! For what it s worth, I have bicycled on my men s style road bike in a skirt,
    Message 1 of 8 , Jul 7, 2007
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      Nice story, Anne.  Don't forget, 3 bikes still take up less space than one car!

       

      For what it's worth, I have bicycled on my men's style road bike in a skirt, even in fairly straight skirts that just hit my knee when I'm standing.  I just lean the bike over a little more when I first mount it.  In my experience no one is really paying attention. 

       

      Leaning the bike over more may not work so well with a heavily loaded Xtracycle.  

       

      Neither of the bikes I own were suitable for an Xtracycle, and I wanted disc brakes, so I ended up ordering one of the combinations that Xtracycle offers: a Marin Novato "street" bike.  It's got a slightly angled-down top tube like a mountain bike, and I plan to ride it with a skirt on occasion.  Although since my main job right now is keeping up with a very active 9 year old boy, I tend to be in pants most of the time.

       

      I pick up my X tomorrow.  Wahoo!!

       

      Justina

       


      From: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com [mailto: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com ] On Behalf Of Anne Littlebird
      Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:26 AM
      To: rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [rootsradicals] A bike story

      I don't have my Xtracycle yet - actually waiting to order until a
      gentleman comes to pick up a cherry corner cupboard I'm selling not
      only to pay for the Xtracycle but to also make a cross country move
      easier.

      In the midst of downsizing I know that I really need to get rid of one
      of my bikes. Having 2 is nice if one is in the shop but 3 is excessive
      for me. I've been agonizing a little bit over which one to get rid of
      and which to put the Xtra on.

      This morning I got on the bike I thought I was getting rid of - my
      Mom's old Raleigh with Sturmey Archer 3 speeds, chain guard, fenders,
      Brooks saddle and the requisite wicker basket from the late 60's. Off
      I went to the post office and few other errands. Well I fell in love
      all over again.

      That bike was built as a utility vehicle and I remembered why I kept
      it this long. It's so comfortable to ride! Steel frame and all! I came
      home and got on the 21 speed womens' hybrid I got from LL Bean to
      replace it some years ago - made by Schwinn I think - and it's just
      not the same. Sure I have tons of speeds but even after adjustment and
      more adjustments, it's not comfy. Nice bike, doesn't work for me.

      More to the point people actually smiled and waved - Ok I did look
      like I'd just left a British movie set from the 40s and 50s but still
      it made people happy.

      the upshot? I'm putting the Xtra on my Giant MTB and keeping the
      Raleigh for those days I want to be lazy and ride in a skirt. If it
      makes people in tin cans smile as they chug down the highway maybe
      they won't try to run over me...


    • Mark Garvey
      ... I keep telling my wife that! But then she asks why the car sits outside and my bikes are all in the garage! By the way, clothing on a bike is an
      Message 2 of 8 , Jul 7, 2007
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        On 7/7/07, Justina Voulgaris <jvoulgaris1@...> wrote:

        Nice story, Anne.  Don't forget, 3 bikes still take up less space than one car!

         

        I keep telling my wife that!  But then she asks why the car sits outside and my bikes are all in the garage!

        By the way, clothing on a bike is an interesting point to me.  today I rode to a gig downtown (my X won't come for a month!) on my mountain bike.  wearing a bright orange aloha shirt, jean shorts and a big straw hat. ...Oh, and Lake cycling sandals... I carried a small cooler with a freezer pack in it to bring home some frozen bratwurst from a guy who grows pigs with no steroids or hormones (OH, my GOD is that good when grilled!  Sorry Vegans.....but it IS really good!)  I have brought home veggies, hot pepper jelly, and other tasty treats too!  I also carry water to keep me from getting overheated in the summer sun on the city streets.  We lost a couple of high school musicians to heat today (they were OK after cold water and a rest inside an air conditioned building!)

        most of the time I wear a helmet...but I am somewhat ambivalent about hemmits.  yeah, they are Good and all that.  I won't argue that they are a great safety device and they are a good idea.  But I do not ALWAYS wear one.  And I almost NEVER wear "spandex!"  Sorry, but it is like wearing paint and THAT is something I do not want to inflict on the world.   Not to be sexist (I really AM NOT in all honesty) but if attractive people want to wear body paint, cool!  i will watch, but At 54, I just don't think it is something I really want to subject the world to!

        Maybe I am paying too much attention to Rivendell stuff eh?

        mark
      • Anne Littlebird
        Yes I know Justine but I don t need 3... :) Glad you get to get your tomorrow! I can elegantly mount any bike in a skirt - my Giant has an angled top tube as
        Message 3 of 8 , Jul 7, 2007
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          Yes I know Justine but I don't need 3... :) Glad you get to get your
          tomorrow!

          I can elegantly mount any bike in a skirt - my Giant has an angled top
          tube as well - the problem comes as I bike down the road - even the
          hybrid - I manage to have the skirt inch it's way up far too far to be
          dignified at all. And while I don't mind being whistled at, it's always
          from teenaged boys. Bummer. For some reason I can manage better in a
          skirt on the Raleigh. Perhaps if I cycled slower...

          I'm with Mark - I detest spandex. Depending on the day I'll take extra
          clothes for work or just cycle in the same ones I'm going to wear.
          That's where the chain guard comes in handy. And there are days when I
          don't wear a helmet either. MTBing yes because of the branches etc but
          not as often for city riding.

          When I told my sister I was going to try to go completely carless in a
          year or less, she didn't think I was crazy at all - we have a lawyer
          Republican brother for that. But she did say that she couldn't wait to
          see how I was going to manage full buckskin regalia and eagle feathers
          on a bike for the next powwow. Silly girl - everyone knows you change
          when you get there. ;)

          Anne

          Justina Voulgaris wrote:
          >
          > Nice story, Anne. Don't forget, 3 bikes still take up less space than
          > one car!
          >
          >
          >
          > For what it's worth, I have bicycled on my men's style road bike in a
          > skirt, even in fairly straight skirts that just hit my knee when I'm
          > standing. I just lean the bike over a little more when I first mount
          > it. In my experience no one is really paying attention.
          >
          >
          >
          > Leaning the bike over more may not work so well with a heavily loaded
          > Xtracycle.
          >
          >
          >
          > Neither of the bikes I own were suitable for an Xtracycle, and I
          > wanted disc brakes, so I ended up ordering one of the combinations
          > that Xtracycle offers: a Marin Novato "street" bike. It's got a
          > slightly angled-down top tube like a mountain bike, and I plan to ride
          > it with a skirt on occasion. Although since my main job right now is
          > keeping up with a very active 9 year old boy, I tend to be in pants
          > most of the time.
          >
          >
          >
          > I pick up my X tomorrow. Wahoo!!
          >
          >
          >
          > Justina
          >
          >
          >
          > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
          >
          > *From:* rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
          > [mailto:rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Anne Littlebird
          > *Sent:* Saturday, July 07, 2007 7:26 AM
          > *To:* rootsradicals@yahoogroups.com
          > *Subject:* [rootsradicals] A bike story
          >
          > I don't have my Xtracycle yet - actually waiting to order until a
          > gentleman comes to pick up a cherry corner cupboard I'm selling not
          > only to pay for the Xtracycle but to also make a cross country move
          > easier.
          >
          > In the midst of downsizing I know that I really need to get rid of one
          > of my bikes. Having 2 is nice if one is in the shop but 3 is excessive
          > for me. I've been agonizing a little bit over which one to get rid of
          > and which to put the Xtra on.
          >
          > This morning I got on the bike I thought I was getting rid of - my
          > Mom's old Raleigh with Sturmey Archer 3 speeds, chain guard, fenders,
          > Brooks saddle and the requisite wicker basket from the late 60's. Off
          > I went to the post office and few other errands. Well I fell in love
          > all over again.
          >
          > That bike was built as a utility vehicle and I remembered why I kept
          > it this long. It's so comfortable to ride! Steel frame and all! I came
          > home and got on the 21 speed womens' hybrid I got from LL Bean to
          > replace it some years ago - made by Schwinn I think - and it's just
          > not the same. Sure I have tons of speeds but even after adjustment and
          > more adjustments, it's not comfy. Nice bike, doesn't work for me.
          >
          > More to the point people actually smiled and waved - Ok I did look
          > like I'd just left a British movie set from the 40s and 50s but still
          > it made people happy.
          >
          > the upshot? I'm putting the Xtra on my Giant MTB and keeping the
          > Raleigh for those days I want to be lazy and ride in a skirt. If it
          > makes people in tin cans smile as they chug down the highway maybe
          > they won't try to run over me...
          >
          >
          >
        • Anne Littlebird
          Thanks Devian - you made my day.
          Message 4 of 8 , Jul 7, 2007
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            Thanks Devian - you made my day.

            Devian Gilbert wrote:
            >
            > funny how a utility/useful bike seems to defy convention
            >
            > in my minds eye, it seems to me that the market for a utility bike had
            > disappeared
            > my fancy road bike complete with Zipps and Record groupo, just sits
            > my way of life and rants of the Bike Life, upon the bike daily thru
            > function
            > often has my fellow cyclists (recreational sportsmen) in disbelief
            > they are still hooked on carbon, Gu, heart rate monitors, goals, and sport
            >
            > anne littlebird
            > i like your writting
            > i like your thoughts
            > i like your actions
            >
            > peace...d
            >
            > "Every time I see an adult on a bicycle, I no longer despair for the
            > human race." H.G. Wells
            > www.AsanaCycles.com
            >
            >
            > On Jul 7, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Anne Littlebird wrote:
            >
            >> I don't have my Xtracycle yet - actually waiting to order until a
            >> gentleman comes to pick up a cherry corner cupboard I'm selling not
            >> only to pay for the Xtracycle but to also make a cross country move
            >> easier.
            >>
            >> In the midst of downsizing I know that I really need to get rid of one
            >> of my bikes. Having 2 is nice if one is in the shop but 3 is excessive
            >> for me. I've been agonizing a little bit over which one to get rid of
            >> and which to put the Xtra on.
            >>
            >> This morning I got on the bike I thought I was getting rid of - my
            >> Mom's old Raleigh with Sturmey Archer 3 speeds, chain guard, fenders,
            >> Brooks saddle and the requisite wicker basket from the late 60's. Off
            >> I went to the post office and few other errands. Well I fell in love
            >> all over again.
            >>
            >> That bike was built as a utility vehicle and I remembered why I kept
            >> it this long. It's so comfortable to ride! Steel frame and all! I came
            >> home and got on the 21 speed womens' hybrid I got from LL Bean to
            >> replace it some years ago - made by Schwinn I think - and it's just
            >> not the same. Sure I have tons of speeds but even after adjustment and
            >> more adjustments, it's not comfy. Nice bike, doesn't work for me.
            >>
            >> More to the point people actually smiled and waved - Ok I did look
            >> like I'd just left a British movie set from the 40s and 50s but still
            >> it made people happy.
            >>
            >> the upshot? I'm putting the Xtra on my Giant MTB and keeping the
            >> Raleigh for those days I want to be lazy and ride in a skirt. If it
            >> makes people in tin cans smile as they chug down the highway maybe
            >> they won't try to run over me...
            >>
            >> Annie
            >>
            >
            >
          • Mark Garvey
            ... so do I! HAH! well, he isn t a LAWYER, but the same idea. Oddly enough when he started ranting to me about how riding bicycles was a socialist plot to
            Message 5 of 8 , Jul 7, 2007
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              On 7/7/07, Anne Littlebird <issumatuq@...> wrote:


              When I told my sister I was going to try to go completely carless in a
              year or less, she didn't think I was crazy at all - we have a lawyer
              Republican brother for that.

              so do I!  HAH!  well, he isn't a LAWYER, but the same idea.  Oddly enough when he started ranting to me about how "riding bicycles was a socialist plot to overthrow the automobile industry"  I pointed out that I was simply avoiding the confiscatory tax structure and using MY money for my purposes, after all I earn it so I should decide how to spend it, and I didn't think that supporting a dictatorship in a country that wants to destroy the USA was a good idea.

              He was stunned that I used HIS WORDS to argue my point about being "car lite".  And he is always making a fuss about the "confiscatory taxes" that are levied by the states at the pump.  I told him that I simply bypassed them.  After all, that is a very CONSERVATIVE thing to do!  HAH!

              mark, the radical conservative  bikie!

            • Jeff Ong
              I know what you mean about trying to decide which bike gets the axe. I recently built up my X. I have been living without a car for a few years (hauling stuff
              Message 6 of 8 , Jul 18, 2007
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                I know what you mean about trying to decide which bike gets the axe. I
                recently built up my X. I have been living without a car for a few
                years (hauling stuff around in a huge messenger bag), and I already
                had three bikes: a fast road bike, a mountain bike which is pretty
                much exclusively for riding singletrack, and a mountain bike which I
                had converted to a fast city-bike, with drop bars and narrow tires.

                I felt like kind of a tool for trying to cram a fourth bike into my
                apartment, but I couldn't really see giving up any of those bikes, or
                turning one into a cargo-hauler... I ride all three of them every
                week, for totally different purposes. So I bought a cheap steel frame
                on eBay and built up the X as a fourth bike, which lives out in the
                locked alley behind my house.... I'm really liking it, so far. Hoping
                to do some camping, but mostly using it to haul groceries,
                dry-cleaning, and all the usual suspects!

                For what it's worth, the X feels really nice and strong and powerful
                when I get back on it after riding my other bikes... and they feel
                really light and agile and fast after the X. So far so good!

                (Oh, and hi -- just joined the group!)

                - Jeff
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